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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2007-September-12, 16:55

Can someone give a rational explanation of this bid, opener's side vulnerable vs. not:

1♦-X-1♠*-2♥
p-3♥**-p-p
4♣

*=non forcing, up to a bad 10 count maybe
**=not very invitational
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Posted 2007-September-12, 16:58

It would seem to me to be a shapely min or sub-min opening that wanted to slow the auction down. The bidding plan was to pull a double by partner. As an example, something like x Qx KJxxx AJTxx.
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Posted 2007-September-12, 17:02

I agree with echo, although I would expect an even more offensive hand. Maybe 65 in the minors, or Qx x in the majors rather than the other way.
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Posted 2007-September-12, 17:48

Gerber. 4♣ is always gerber.
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Posted 2007-September-12, 18:02

awm, on Sep 12 2007, 06:48 PM, said:

Gerber. 4♣ is always gerber.

You made me laugh. Thank you. I REALLY needed that.
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Posted 2007-September-13, 05:08

Hi,

no, the bid does not exist.

You dont defend with a partial on the
4 level against a partial on the 3 level.
=> Hence 4C is forcing, but I believe
opener did have another option to show
his clubs, 2H could have been passed out.

And opener does not hold a penalty doubel
of hearts, which would explain the first pass,
in case the partnership plays suppX.

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  Posted 2007-September-13, 08:13

Ditto Echo. I would think it's any 6-5 in the minors tho like Arend.
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Posted 2007-September-13, 09:40

All 6-5s should have bid over 2H. I can see maybe --- xxx KQxxx AJxxx doing this after upgrading its xxx hearts when the opps have raised and pard hasnt rebid spades.
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Posted 2007-September-13, 10:06

Agree with Justin, 6-5s should bid over w♥. But the hand given by Echo seems plausible whether you switch the majors or not.
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Posted 2007-September-13, 10:50

awm, on Sep 13 2007, 12:48 AM, said:

Gerber. 4♣ is always gerber.

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Posted 2007-September-13, 11:11

Not possible.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-September-13, 12:37

I'd also vote that this sequence doesn't exist. Though Justin's example makes sense.
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Posted 2007-September-13, 17:08

;) Easy - partner is 5-5 in the minors with three baby hearts and moderate high cards. Now that hearts have been bid and raised, spades haven't been bid again, and the opponents have subsided below game, he sees that partner is short in hearts, should fit one of his minors and probably has a few useful high cards.

Oooops, this just what Justin already said. In that case:

4♣ is ALWAYS Gerber
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