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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2007-September-08, 11:08

The opponents bid to 2S and you hold:

Scoring: IMP


Would you balance after

1C - p - 1S - p
2S - p - p - ?

What if the auction was:

p - p - 1S - p
2S - p - p - ?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-September-08, 13:17

2NT and pull diams to hearts on both cases.
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Posted 2007-September-08, 13:51

I don't think I do. but i am a chicken =) i feel like p probably has 2=3=5=3 and will likely bypass the 3 card club suit on the way to 3d

The second auction is i think a little bit clearer to me. (though i always get this stuff wrong). p with inferred spade shortness did not prebalance with a passed hand to his right.
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Posted 2007-September-08, 13:54

Pass in the first case, 3C in the second.

In the first case I would bid 1NT the first time around.

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Posted 2007-September-08, 14:38

Balancing seems suicidal on this hand in the first auction (to put it mildly). The second auction is much different as LHO hasn't bid clubs (making a bad club break less likely) and partner hasn't had the chance to overcall 1H (making a heart game much more likely) and the opps have 8 trumps for sure (making a fit more likely). However, it is not possible for me to have this hand in that auction.
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Posted 2007-September-08, 17:29

>However, it is not possible for me to have this hand in that auction.

Meaning you would have overcalled 2♣? (the 2nd auction)



I would pass in the first auction

If I had not overcalled 2♣ in the 2nd auction I think I would pass, assuming the opponents are decent players. Let them make their 2♠. I think if I bid it will result in an occasional phone number and is not worth it overall, even if you make some partscores or sac at -50 instead of -110 or -140.
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Posted 2007-September-08, 18:48

Pass first, 2NT second.
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Posted 2007-September-08, 20:06

Jlall, on Sep 8 2007, 03:38 PM, said:

However, it is not possible for me to have this hand in that auction.

You play 1NT in direct seat as a two-suiter? Or you play something more special than that?
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Posted 2007-September-08, 20:31

jtfanclub, on Sep 8 2007, 09:06 PM, said:

Jlall, on Sep 8 2007, 03:38 PM, said:

However, it is not possible for me to have this hand in that auction.

You play 1NT in direct seat as a two-suiter? Or you play something more special than that?

Uh, I think he plays 2♣ shows clubs.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-September-09, 03:26

Pass seems clear in the first auction.

In the second I'd have overcalled 2♣ previously.
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