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Posted 2007-September-07, 00:33
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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Posted 2007-September-07, 00:58
Hi Jilly,
I like bidding 2S more than doubling with this hand type. Xing will make it hard to find 5-3 spade fits unless I X and bid spades which would be a big overbid. Doubling can certainly work well, but I think it's better to get my 5 card major in and hope for the best.
I like bidding 2S more than doubling with this hand type. Xing will make it hard to find 5-3 spade fits unless I X and bid spades which would be a big overbid. Doubling can certainly work well, but I think it's better to get my 5 card major in and hope for the best.
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Posted 2007-September-07, 01:30
If there is a game to be made, particularly 4♠, it will probably be reached only if we don't pass. There are two reasons for this:
-we have the majority of HCP for that game
-we have shorter hearts than p. he will look at his hand with 3 or even 4 hearts and say "look, partner didn't act over 2♥. that means he (she?) has nuttin." Jxxx Jxx KQx Kxx
is certainly going to pass it out. a passed hand is not barred from reopening, but a passed hand with 3+ hearts is.
As to why 2♠>double, it has already been explained very nicely. One more point: double would be a very good choice on some moth-eaten spade suit like
7xxxx
Qx
AKJ
AQx
even though this really starts to look like a pass.
-we have the majority of HCP for that game
-we have shorter hearts than p. he will look at his hand with 3 or even 4 hearts and say "look, partner didn't act over 2♥. that means he (she?) has nuttin." Jxxx Jxx KQx Kxx
is certainly going to pass it out. a passed hand is not barred from reopening, but a passed hand with 3+ hearts is.
As to why 2♠>double, it has already been explained very nicely. One more point: double would be a very good choice on some moth-eaten spade suit like
7xxxx
Qx
AKJ
AQx
even though this really starts to look like a pass.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-September-07, 05:00
2S on this Kathryn.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2007-September-07, 05:09
Even vs a light opener we might hav game here. So I'll have to make a bid now. Sure, if partner is broke it's going to cost. But I'll stick my neck out. 2♠ is my bid, for the same reasons given by Justin.
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Harald
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Posted 2007-September-07, 07:54
2♠ it was. The result 2♠X-4 made me wonder about the bid, 2nd seat preempt should be been solid, partner a passed hand,Qx etc. Of course I got to play against the only EW to leave in the X 
West North East South
- Pass 2♥ 2♠
Dbl Pass Pass Pass
lead A♥
Scoring: IMP
West North East South
- Pass 2♥ 2♠
Dbl Pass Pass Pass
lead A♥
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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Posted 2007-September-07, 08:08
jb, that's why people preempt. Next hand!
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Posted 2007-September-07, 08:19
Bad luck there Kathryn... West's Dbl is 100% penalty Dbl so in a strong field you would probably have a lot of company.
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Posted 2007-September-07, 08:36
pbleighton, on Sep 7 2007, 09:08 AM, said:
jb, that's why people preempt. Next hand!
Peter
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amen
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Posted 2007-September-07, 08:46
jillybean2, on Sep 7 2007, 08:54 AM, said:
2♠ it was. The result 2♠X-4
Alas, if you'd only managed to hold it to -3, you'd have had a top board!
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Posted 2007-September-07, 09:08
Bad luck, don't let it change your call next time, 2S was normal.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-September-07, 12:21
Partner had a 0 HCP dummy with no support AGAIN? 
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-September-07, 12:34
Right on! the problem aint my bidding , my partner has lousey cards and the rest of the field is simply too weak.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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