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Posted 2007-September-11, 02:58

Unfavorable IMPs LHO deals and opens 2♦. Partner doubles.

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Posted 2007-September-11, 03:16

6sp. Alternatively 3di, followed by 3sp if p responds 3he, and some cuebids.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 06:16

What is the 2D opening? Multi, weak 2, mini Roman, Benjamin????
I assume you mean a weak 2. If so, I bid 3D. Over 3H/3S you have a variety of options - Exclusion Bw, a 4D cue. The exact sequence depends a lot on whom your pd is. I would never bid 6S unless playing with a weak pick up pd Helene. You are cold for a grand opposite many possible layouts.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 06:17

weak 2 in diamonds, sorry for being vague

bonus question: partner bids 3NT over 3♦. Now what?
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Posted 2007-September-11, 06:19

RHO was unable to find a Diamond raise. This almost guaruntees that partner is sitting on a NT oriented hand that is too strong for an immediate 1NT

Slam seems almost certain. A grand is well within the realm of possibility. We need as much bidding space as possible to determine strain and then start exploring controls.

3♦ looks like a reasonable start.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 06:38

3d easy so far

May miss the grand, my next bids are going to be very difficult
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Posted 2007-September-11, 06:42

2♦ openerz pwnz joo!! ^^

3♠ if I'm 100% sure it would be forcing
3♦ otherwise
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Posted 2007-September-11, 06:44

3D is a solid start. After pard's surprising 3NT I would cuebid again and see what they do with it. I expect pard to not have necessarily denied a 4 card major here.

7 is starting to look super.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 07:01

3♦ for now.

I hate the unexpected 3NT rebid by part... he has no 4 card major and is stronger than immediate 2NT overcall? I'm not sure how to continue, I'm not too worried by grand but on which small slam to play, 6♠ or 6NT.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 07:27

3♦-3NT
4♦-anything that is not 4M
5♠

or

3♦-3NT
4♦-4M
5♦
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Posted 2007-September-11, 09:53

I don't think that partner has a hand that it too strong for a direct 2NT bid, with that hand partner would have bid 4NT now. I'd say that partner is more likely 3-3-2-5 with Kx of diamonds.

Anyway, agree with 4D.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 10:12

Hannie, on Sep 11 2007, 06:53 PM, said:

I don't think that partner has a hand that it too strong for a direct 2NT bid, with that hand partner would have bid 4NT now. I'd say that partner is more likely 3-3-2-5 with Kx of diamonds.

If partner has that hand, then the opponents have an 11 card Diamond fit.

Lets assume that LHO has six Diamonds for his 2♦ opening. Do you really think that RHO is passing with 5 card Diamond support?

I know that there are some hands where you deliberately bury a big fit hoping that the opponents go awry. This might be one of those times. However, I think that this is less likely than then big NT oriented hand.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 10:14

hrothgar, on Sep 11 2007, 11:12 AM, said:

Hannie, on Sep 11 2007, 06:53 PM, said:

I don't think that partner has a hand that it too strong for a direct 2NT bid, with that hand partner would have bid 4NT now. I'd say that partner is more likely 3-3-2-5 with Kx of diamonds.

If partner has that hand, then the opponents have an 11 card Diamond fit.

Slets assume that LHO has six Diamonds for his 2♦ opening. Do you really think that RHO is passing with 5 card Diamond support?

I know that there are some hands where you deliberately bury a big fit hoping that the opponents go awry. This might be one of those times. However, I think that this is less likely than then big NT oriented hand.

I agree with you Richard, at least one person at the table has made an unusual call. But I don't think that 3NT in this auction should show a balanced monster.
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