[han]

pclayton, on Sep 5 2007, 12:26 PM, said:

The 'death seat' has all but lost its significance in modern bidding. 20 years ago, an overcall here meant that you had a real hand. Now, because of support doubles and pre-balance mania, overcalls in the sandwich seat are made on much lighter hands.

I have a hard time figuring out what support doubles and pre-balance mania have to do with death seat bidding. I'm sure Phil will clarify.

[mike777]

perhaps he is talking about the lack of penalty doubles for lower levels of bidding. Double means something but not penalty so perhaps that encourages more light overcalls?

[han]

Good point Mike, that explains the relationship with support doubles. How about pre-balance mania?

[jdonn]

How could anyone not vote for 3♠? There is a picture of this hand next to the 3♠ bid in this auction in the dictionary. 3♣ is all wet.

If you have some agreement about what 2NT means, like say that it shows a good raise, of course that is fine too.

[han]

All wet?

[vang]

at the table i choose the wet 3♣. still, i think partner should have saved me, with x Axxx x AKJxxxx he can count on 8 direct tricks from his hand (and 4♣ doesn't seems in big danger). do you agree?

[jdonn]

Hannie, on Sep 5 2007, 06:33 PM, said:

All wet?

http://www.answers.com/topic/all-wet
http://www.thefreedi...ary.com/all+wet (under idioms)
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/wet (a little below #8)
http://www.reference.../browse/all/wet (18)

Actually I learned something too, I thought it also carried a conotation of wimpiness, but I guess not.

[ulven]

Gerben42, on Sep 5 2007, 10:10 AM, said:

On the 3♥ vs 3♠ question: I learned that:

* If opps bid 1 suit, we ask stoppers
* If opps bid 2 suits, we show stoppers

I bid 3♥ as I prefer 'always ask'.

Easily solves the case when you lack stoppers in both shown suits, which may occur under some circumstances.

[jdeegan]

3♠
My hand is HUGE given this auction so far. We should have nine tricks opposite ♣AKJ sixth and out, so 4♣ ought to be safe or, at the very least, a good save against their part score. Most likely, that's the limit of the hand, but bidding 3♠ will allow partner to bid game (either 3NT or 5♣) if he has extras. I am also showing defense with this bid so pard will not be in too big of a hurry to find a 5♣ phantom save.

[pbleighton]

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I'll content myself with 3♣. I'm not going to hang pard for stepping in with x, Kxxx, xx, AKJxxx.

Agree.

Peter

[helene_t]

hatchett, on Sep 6 2007, 12:16 AM, said:

I like to play 2NT as a good raise of partner's overcall in this type of sequence where no cuebid is avialable.

But that would wrongside 3NT when overcaller has the stopper. Isn't it better to play Lebensohl?

I voted 2NT, assuming it is natural.