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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:36

♠K ♥AKx ♦AQxxx ♣AQTx

You open 1♦ (agree?). Pard bids 1♥ and you JS to 3♣. Pard tries 3♠.

Now what?
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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:45

I agree with your decision to open 1 diamond; If partner cannot respond, then you are probably in a fine spot, and it sets you up for the rest of the auction

I think 4♥ is your next bid. Partner now knows your strength and shape, and is in a position to make an intelligent decision as to whether to move forward or not. (knowing that you have to be heavy on points to JS in the minors).
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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:47

1) 100% agree 1D
2) 6H now. may miss grand.
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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:55

I agree with 1D and 3C. Although I have slight extras I think I would just bid 4H now. Partner has a better idea of my hand than I have of his.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:57

I am thinking of what my box is for 4H. I think this hand is too good for just 4H after partner bids 3s but see many disagree.
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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:58

4♥ for me. 3♠ could just be a waffle for finding the right strain.
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Posted 2007-September-03, 21:58

For me 3♠ is no such waffle. :D
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-September-03, 22:16

I would have opened 2♣ and treated it as balanced. It's not that I'm so worried 1♦ will be passed out, but even when it's not I can't show this many values.
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Posted 2007-September-03, 22:33

4H is enough
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Posted 2007-September-04, 01:38

Agree with 1♦ and 3♣, now I'll bid 4♥. You didn't raise to 2♥ with this shape, so partner should expect a very good hand.
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Posted 2007-September-04, 01:47

What is 3♠? Does it promise five hearts? Wouldn't p bid 3♠ with xxxx-QTxx-x-KJxx?
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Posted 2007-September-04, 03:45

helene_t, on Sep 4 2007, 09:47 AM, said:

What is 3♠? Does it promise five hearts? Wouldn't p bid 3♠ with xxxx-QTxx-x-KJxx?

...or with xxx-QTxx-xx-KJxx ?
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Posted 2007-September-04, 03:53

Hi,

#1 I agree, with 1D
#2 5H

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Posted 2007-September-04, 10:18

P_Marlowe, on Sep 4 2007, 01:53 AM, said:

Hi,

#1 I agree, with 1D
#2 5H

With kind regards
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I did bid 5♥ at the table. I felt the hand had just too much for a 4♥ call, but maybe my requirements for a jump shift are lower than others.

We hadn't discussed what 3♠ means, but going back to Josh Sher's excellent post regarding jump shifts of a few weeks ago, it should convey "doubt about strain". Pard actially held: ♠AT9x ♥QJxxx ♦Jx ♣Kx. Over 5♥ he just bid 6♥. We missed a good 7.

He says 3♦ would have been a better call. I think I agree since it lets me pattern out.
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Posted 2007-September-04, 10:57

pclayton, on Sep 4 2007, 10:18 AM, said:

I did bid 5♥ at the table. I felt the hand had just too much for a 4♥ call, but maybe my requirements for a jump shift are lower than others.

We hadn't discussed what 3♠ means, but going back to Josh Sher's excellent post regarding jump shifts of a few weeks ago, it should convey "doubt about strain". Pard actially held: ♠AT9x ♥QJxxx ♦Jx ♣Kx. Over 5♥ he just bid 6♥. We missed a good 7.

He says 3♦ would have been a better call. I think I agree since it lets me pattern out.

Hmm, he bids 6♥ over 5♥ and apologizes for bidding 3♠? Come on, he has a 7♥ bid over that, and at least should try 5♠.

3♠ is just natural for me, not sure whether that's what you are trying to say.
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Posted 2007-September-04, 12:51

i bid 3H over 3S.
hmmm.
insufficient?
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Posted 2007-September-04, 13:36

I don't think pard is obliged to have 5 hearts. After all, he could have bid 3♥ with that hand.

So 3NT now. If pard has xxx of spades and 4 hearts... well, LHO can always underlead his spade ace.. lol.
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