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#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2007-August-31, 15:29


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     -     -     3NT
 4♣    Pass  5♣    Pass
 Pass  Pass  

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Posted 2007-August-31, 15:37

I like Multi-Landy here but that needs to be discussed, of course.
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Posted 2007-August-31, 15:58

Ripstra is said to be one of the best defenses vs gambling 3NT.

4m=somewhat natural (3+), promising 44+ in majors
4M=natural
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Posted 2007-August-31, 17:20

dbl = big balanced hand (16+)
4C = take-out for majors, emphasis on hearts
4D = take-out for majors, emphasis on spades
4M = nat
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Posted 2007-August-31, 17:31

It's common to play (by agreement) that 4♣ and 4♦ both show the majors. You can do one is better hearts one better spades, one is better hand than the other, bid your better minor, whatever. It's an uncommon enough situation that having any clear agreement at all is fine. The important thing is to have at least one bid available to show the majors. I'm perfectly happy playing 4♣ shows the majors and that's it.
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Posted 2007-August-31, 20:17

whereagles, on Aug 31 2007, 03:20 PM, said:

dbl = big balanced hand (16+)
4C = take-out for majors, emphasis on hearts
4D = take-out for majors, emphasis on spades
4M = nat

AKA Ripstra. Its what I play.

Or let me say, its what I play every two years when this comes up and we discuss the situation afterward. :)
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Posted 2007-August-31, 21:35

http://homepage.mac....ons/Ripsta.html

In Ripstra you bid your better minor.

The convention which Whereagles described resembles Unusual vs. Unusual, if anything, I guess. (the version vs. 2NT opener for minors)
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Posted 2007-September-01, 10:20

jdonn, on Sep 1 2007, 01:31 AM, said:

I'm perfectly happy playing 4♣ shows the majors and that's it.

So am I. (Of course double shows a big hand.)
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