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Compete or not?

Poll: What do you bid? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid?

  1. 3C (22 votes [81.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.48%

  2. Pass (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  3. other (pls explain) (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

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#1 User is offline   Free 

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Posted 2007-August-30, 02:20

You hold:
Scoring: IMP


West is dealer, the auction goes:
pass - 1NT* - 2♣* - 2♦
pass - pass - 2♥ - ???

1NT shows 12-14, any 4333/4432/5332/4441/5422 (not 5-4M)
2♣ shows both Majors
You decided to bid 2♦, competing, but RHO decided to compete as well.

What do you bid? Is it close?
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Posted 2007-August-30, 02:24

3C now. 2D wasn't forcing, so pd will not take me too seriously. No, this isn't close - for me this is an obvious wtp?
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Posted 2007-August-30, 02:44

What Ron said.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 05:16

OK so color me yellow, I'm passing. It's not clear that the deal is not a near-complete misfit. -500 is a possibility that can come only from competing.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 06:20

This is very close, no *wtp* for me.

I would definitely bid if either West had bid 2H, showing a fit, or if we weren't vulnerable. I'm not too worried about -500, but his could easily be a phantom sacrifice.

I pass, on another day I might bid.

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Posted 2007-August-30, 06:26

3♣. I am not going to sell out to 2♥. I realise that partner may have considerable length in the majors, but even if he is 4432, 4423 and even 5332 or 5323 we have a fit.

He should know I am 5-5 with competitive values. With 5-4 I would bid 2NT now.

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Posted 2007-August-30, 06:31

Is this an exercise in the obvious, or did partner make a few questionable calls?

You are dealer, playing 15-17 notrumps.

♠Kxx ♥AQxx ♦Ax ♣K10xx

Any thoughts here?

What is your opening bid? Second choice?

What if partner has a 0-count, the opponents double you, and you go for -500?

What if it turns out that you were second seat, and you bid out of turn, and your partner is barred?

Any takers for a 3♦ psychic?
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Posted 2007-August-30, 07:27

Another 3C wtp
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Posted 2007-August-30, 07:41

3♣. Not close.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 08:23

gwnn, on Aug 30 2007, 06:16 AM, said:

It's not clear that the deal is not a near-complete misfit.

Your partner opened 1N. Unless he is prone to opening hands that are 5-4 in the majors (and 2-2 in the minors) with a weak NT, it is impossible your side does not have a fit in one or both minor suits. Now, I suppose its possible, and it certainly sounds as if partner might be 5422 on the auction, and also from the looks of my hand, I still prefer to go ahead and bid out the cards I am actually looking at, instead of guessing what partner (or RHO) happen to have.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 10:14

By near-complete misfit I meant we only have one 8 card minor fit and our hands mesh particularly badly.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 10:14

Definite 3♣ wtp.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 10:21

I vote 3C
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Posted 2007-August-30, 11:08

I bid 3♣ and went -2. 2♥ goes down, probably -2...
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Posted 2007-August-30, 11:47

Free, on Aug 30 2007, 12:08 PM, said:

I bid 3♣ and went -2. 2♥ goes down, probably -2...

Damned bad luck.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 12:39

Obvious 3C Frederick.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 13:05

easy 2nt for the minors, gives us a chance to play the hand from the stronger side and puts the stronger opp hand on lead. 2nt never to play.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 13:08

mike777, on Aug 30 2007, 01:05 PM, said:

easy 2nt for the minors, gives us a chance to play the hand from the stronger side and puts the stronger opp hand on lead. 2nt never to play.

I agree with 2N on the first round (if it shows the minors), but bidding 2N now would show both minors with longer diamonds.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 13:36

2NT for the minors is a nice agreement 1st round (inviting for NT in a competitive auction? why? since when?), that would have been very good BTW.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 13:37

I bid 3♣, but I don't think this is near as clear as most posters.
LHO's pass over 2♦ strongly implies that they don't have a real fit. I'd not be very surprised if partner showed up with 44M. Passing is still a bit extreme, though, and I'd go with the big majority and rebid 3♣. 2NT is definitely out, that looks more like 6-4.
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