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Posted 2007-August-29, 15:43

You hold AQ, J9xxx, Qxx, AQx.
It is IMPS and no one vul.

RHO is dealer and opens 1♥. You overcall 1NT. LHO passes, pd bids 2H (transfer to spades), RHO passes, you bid 2S and LHO doubles. Three passes.

LHO leads the ♥A and shifts to club.

Scoring: IMP


On club shift you play low, low from RHO and you win the Q. When you cash the ♠A, as expected, RHO shows out. What now?

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Posted 2007-August-29, 16:18

Sounds like a beg/int LHO, who doubles the opponents into game at IMP based on Txxxx of trumps when he did not have enough to double 1NT.

OK, I know it is a play problem, but even so ...
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Posted 2007-August-29, 17:35

1eyedjack, on Aug 29 2007, 05:18 PM, said:

Sounds like a beg/int LHO, who doubles the opponents into game at IMP based on Txxxx of trumps when he did not have enough to double 1NT.

OK, I know it is a play problem, but even so ...

Yes, X was bad, but maybe opp thought you can't play well enough. All the more reason to make it :rolleyes:
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Posted 2007-August-29, 18:17

Cash SQ, CA, club ruff, SK, exit a side suit.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 02:02

Right. I guess this was too easy... on the table i managed to goof it up (only made it because of a defensive error)
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Posted 2007-August-30, 08:57

I need 6 spade tricks, so I'm going to run two hearts through LHO. Lose a heart, win the return, run a heart, ruffing on the board. Back to hand via AC or QS, run a second heart. I take 2 clubs and 6 spades.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2007-August-30, 13:56

vuroth, on Aug 30 2007, 04:57 PM, said:

I need 6 spade tricks, so I'm going to run two hearts through LHO. Lose a heart, win the return, run a heart, ruffing on the board. Back to hand via AC or QS, run a second heart. I take 2 clubs and 6 spades.

Two of dummy's small trumps will go under your ace and queen. If you cash the ♣A and ruff a club, dummy will be down to KJ9 in trumps and 5 red cards. You've got 5 tricks by now and will score KJ9 of trumps whatever happens from now.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 15:30

vuroth, on Aug 30 2007, 09:57 AM, said:

I need 6 spade tricks, so I'm going to run two hearts through LHO. Lose a heart, win the return, run a heart, ruffing on the board. Back to hand via AC or QS, run a second heart. I take 2 clubs and 6 spades.

This is inferior to the other lines which were suggested.

Each time a heart is played, LHO gets an opportunity to throw a club.
You might make 6 trumps tricks, but it might be the 2 clubs tricks which become difficult to get.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 20:37

Would you cash your club and spades and ruff a club, and play the last heart, they take their three diamonds. We have 3 trumps left (AQ and a ruff) and so does LHO, whatever RHO plays LHO is finessed out of his trump.

What if LHO ruffs the 2nd heart? Well we were planning to lose 2 hearts anyway, so it didn't help him at all, and now his trumps will come down.
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Posted 2007-August-31, 09:58

skaeran, on Aug 30 2007, 02:56 PM, said:

vuroth, on Aug 30 2007, 04:57 PM, said:

I need 6 spade tricks, so I'm going to run two hearts through LHO.  Lose a heart, win the return, run a heart, ruffing on the board.  Back to hand via AC or QS, run a second heart.  I take 2 clubs and 6 spades.

Two of dummy's small trumps will go under your ace and queen. If you cash the ♣A and ruff a club, dummy will be down to KJ9 in trumps and 5 red cards. You've got 5 tricks by now and will score KJ9 of trumps whatever happens from now.

I see it now. It's not that the KJ9 trump is boss, as LHO still has Txx trump. The point is, since I don't need to regain the lead until trump are played again, I only need to cover 3 of the sub-ten trump (2 on the AQ, one via ruffing), not the 4 I originally thought I needed. As long as opponents are on lead, not me, the KJ9 will take 3 tricks.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2007-August-31, 10:15

vuroth, on Aug 31 2007, 10:58 AM, said:

skaeran, on Aug 30 2007, 02:56 PM, said:

vuroth, on Aug 30 2007, 04:57 PM, said:

I need 6 spade tricks, so I'm going to run two hearts through LHO.  Lose a heart, win the return, run a heart, ruffing on the board.  Back to hand via AC or QS, run a second heart.  I take 2 clubs and 6 spades.

Two of dummy's small trumps will go under your ace and queen. If you cash the ♣A and ruff a club, dummy will be down to KJ9 in trumps and 5 red cards. You've got 5 tricks by now and will score KJ9 of trumps whatever happens from now.

I see it now. It's not that the KJ9 trump is boss, as LHO still has Txx trump. The point is, since I don't need to regain the lead until trump are played again, I only need to cover 3 of the sub-ten trump (2 on the AQ, one via ruffing), not the 4 I originally thought I needed. As long as opponents are on lead, not me, the KJ9 will take 3 tricks.

Yes, once you shorten dummy's holding to the same length as LHO's holding and then exit, they are endplayed.
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