[Double !]

Game is imps (imp pairs)/ typical MBC game.
You are second seat, nobody vul.

You hold: ♠ 9643, ♥ 6, ♦ KQJ86, ♣ AT4.

The bidding goes Pass on your right. Your call. Would you open this hand or not? If your answer is yes, what bid would you recommend?

TIA:

DHL

[mike777]

If this is a typical pickup main room game, no I pass in second seat.
easy.

[han]

Easy pass.

[gwnn]

3rd in hand NV this is an acceptable 3♦ opener for me. Otherwise, never ever (that is to say, outside limited openings)

[ArtK78]

For lack of a better response, "WTP?"

This is a clear cut pass in second seat. My second choice would be a weak 2♦ opener.

[pclayton]

I pass, although move my A♣ to spades and I open.

[jtfanclub]

Double !, on Aug 27 2007, 04:51 PM, said:

You hold: ♠ 9643, ♥ 6, ♦ KQJ86, ♣ AT4.

I'm comparing this hand to the hand Ralph proposed:
♠ 5 ♥ AT94 ♦AKT7 ♣9865

On Double's, I have no rebid issues. I also have spades...I like spades.

I think Aces and Kings tend to get overrated on partials. I mean, on a 4-3-2-1 scale they're underrated, but people tend to overcompensate. The 'heavy' scales include slam tries and suchlike, and I seriously doubt that if either hand gets passed out that we missed a game.

Would you rather have AKTx across xxxx, or KQJxx across xxxx? I know which one I like. I think Double's hand is better on offense. On defense, Double's is clearly the worse hand, but that's more of a reason to open it. It also doesn't strike me as a hand I'd like to bid defensively. Doubling 1 heart risks us ending up in spades in a 4-3 fit with no honors, or at 3 clubs on a 4-3 fit. Overcalling two diamonds risks losing the spade suit.

I don't like opening either of them, but I feel more comfortable opening Double's than Ralph's. If (outside of the singleton) it had two 10s and two 9s like Ralph's, I'd probably open it if I was feeling frisky.

[pbleighton]

This is very close, it would depend on my mood. I normally won't open 5431 10 counts, but the diamonds are very nice...

With a pickup pd I pass, too many of them are rigid point counters, no sense in alienating partner on a marginal hand.

Peter

[Double !]

I think this is not such a clear cut pass because of possession of a rebid as well as trick-taking potential. None-the-less, I passed the hand at the table, and the bidding continued 3 spades by my expert lho followed by 4 Hearts by my Partner. Do you take any action over 4 Hearts after rho passes?

TIA

DHL

[mikeh]

Easy pass for me: not close

[the hog]

Double !, on Aug 28 2007, 08:43 AM, said:

I think this is not such a clear cut pass because of possession of a rebid as well as trick-taking potential. None-the-less, I passed the hand at the table, and the bidding continued 3 spades by my expert lho followed by 4 Hearts by my Partner. Do you take any action over 4 Hearts after rho passes?

TIA

DHL

Pass to start with and pass after 4H. This is easy.

[jdonn]

Double !, on Aug 27 2007, 08:43 PM, said:

I think this is not such a clear cut pass because of possession of a rebid as well as trick-taking potential. None-the-less, I passed the hand at the table, and the bidding continued 3 spades by my expert lho followed by 4 Hearts by my Partner. Do you take any action over 4 Hearts after rho passes?

TIA

DHL

It would have an easy rebid and trick taking potential minus the ace of clubs also. That doesn't make it good enough to open

[cherdano]

I pass but I am quite tempted, this could be quite a nice hand.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Free]

Pass, although in a typical MBC game you might want to open 2♦...

[skjaeran]

Pass.
And when a notorious light opener like me passes, this should be unanimous.
After 3♠ 4♥ pass I've still got an easy pass.

[cherdano]

Double !, on Aug 27 2007, 07:43 PM, said:

the bidding continued 3 spades by my expert lho followed by 4 Hearts by my Partner. Do you take any action over 4 Hearts after rho passes?

PASS. This isn't close at all.

[whereagles]

Obvious 2♦ opener in my style ^^