[kenrexford]

Scoring: MP

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West opens 1♥. Partner doubles, passed to you.

Q1: What call?

Assume that you bid 1NT (you can express outrage if you want). Opener rebids 2♥, partner doubles, passed to you.

Q2: Now what?

Q3: What should partner's second double look like?

[han]

I would bid 3D instead. I do have 5 of them and only a single stopper.

I think that opener's second double is just extra values, nothing else. So I would expect maybe a 15-count, likely with 1 or 2 hearts. I'm not sure what to bid now, it depends a bit on what you expect for the 1NT call. I'm from the school that this shows a pretty good hand, like 8-11 and a stopper, not some 6-count. So I don't have a great hand in context and I choose 3D. If I was worried about missing game then I'd have to bid 3NT but I have no idea if that is the right game.

[Codo]

AT mps 1 NT is an idea, at imps I surely had prefered 3 Diamond.
After the double, I bid 3 Diamond. I showed 8-11 allready, so I can show my suit now too.

[Free]

1NT describes my hand, so I agree.

Now 3♦. I expect partner to have some extra's, probably a 4-1-4-4, and 3♦ definitely shows a good hand (otherwise start with 2NT).

[gwnn]

Codo, on Sep 4 2007, 08:36 AM, said:

AT mps 1 NT is an idea, at imps I surely had prefered 3 Diamond.
After the double, I bid 3 Diamond. I showed 8-11 allready, so I can show my suit now too.

Agree.

[asc]

Q1: 3♦
Q2: PASS-optional Double
Q3: ♠AJxx ♥Q10 ♦Kxx ♣AQxx (I hope, but usualy his ♦ are longer-even 5)

[matmat]

Q1: Three possibilities here, imo 1n, 2d, 3d. Kxx is hardly a stopper to be proud of, if p happens to have a hand that wants to play in NT opposite a single stop, there is plenty of room to ask about it later. It is close between 2d and 3d. if you count the HK full value then 3d is clear, otherwise i have a balanced 7 count, with the HK likely useless except preventing an initial heart lead (am I contradicting myself here). I'd probably make a wussy 2d call here. (yell at me if you like).

Q2: if i call 1n and p Xs 2h? hmmm... that sounds like, i've got tricks, we're taking a telephone number kind of a double. Now i'm nervous. my hearts are not nearly as good as what had been advertized. 3d i think, and I'll be quite happy to bid 3n over a 3h bid.

Q3: sounds like a power hand to me. i'd be tempted to play p for a balanced 19 or so at this point. This could be very wrong =)

[pclayton]

Q1: I'm on board with 1N.

Q2: The opps are vul, right? I pass. Pard has described: AKxx, xx, Kxx, AKxx

Q3: See above. You might swap out the ♣K for the ♥Q, but then LHO is really nuts.

[cherdano]

matmat, on Sep 4 2007, 12:21 PM, said:

Q1: Three possibilities here, imo 1n, 2d, 3d. Kxx is hardly a stopper to be proud of, if p happens to have a hand that wants to play in NT opposite a single stop, there is plenty of room to ask about it later. It is close between 2d and 3d. if you count the HK full value then 3d is clear, otherwise i have a balanced 7 count, with the HK likely useless except preventing an initial heart lead (am I contradicting myself here). I'd probably make a wussy 2d call here. (yell at me if you like).

Yell.

Anyway, I prefer 3♦ over 1N.

[matmat]

cherdano, on Sep 4 2007, 02:17 PM, said:

Yell.

argh!

[whereagles]

1NT first, pass the dbl later. If I know LHO has its bid, then 3♦ over pd's 2nd dbl.

[ArtK78]

Yuck! The idea of bidding 1NT on these cards and then passing the double of 2♥ just turns my stomach. It is also a great way to go -670 (or +200 when you should be +400).

3♦ on the first round. If partner is interested in 3NT and only requires one stopper, he can bid 3♥. I will have no problem bidding 3NT over 3♥.

[awm]

I prefer 3♦ initially -- of course I tend to play 1NT as more like 6-9 as I am not fond of playing 3-3 major fits when my side has half the values. I'm willing to bid 1NT on 6-count opposite an opening hand (even though we might have 11+6=17 hcp) so why not over a takeout double where at least our side's strong hand is behind their strong hand?

Anyways, having bid 1NT and heard partner double 2♥, shouldn't we give some consideration to 3NT? Partner's "extras" double has shown sufficient values for game, and I wouldn't expect to get rich defending when opponents have 8-9 hearts between them.

[Halo]

I'd never have found anything other than bidding diamonds. But the idea of bidding NT is interesting: need to think about it. Then etc, but passing is interesting.

[kenrexford]

Doubler held ♠Kxx ♥Qx ♦KQxx ♣KQxx.

The auction in fact went:

1♥-X-P-1NT-
2♥-X-P-P-
P

Making three.

The two-time doubler thought that the second pass was sick, and he had some endorsement of his view by a few.

The 1NT/passer thought that the second double was sick and had his view endorsed by a few as well.

[Codo]

both are right: The second double is sick and so is the final pass.