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a sayc question wthat to bid?

#1 User is offline   proff 

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Posted 2007-August-25, 10:53

Is here anybody able to tell me which bid SAYC sets with these cards in east:

KQJ104 AK1098 Ax x

in this sequence

S: pass W: pass N : 2 E: ?

Is in this position 3 a michaels cue bid? If not this would be the bid, showing
a strong hand not suitable for a double because short in .
But if 3 shd show 55m, wich forcing bid wd be right?

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Posted 2007-August-25, 11:12

It depends on your agreements. The default agreement is, I believe

(2) 3 = running minor, asks for stopper
(2) 4NT = minors

However, if you're not sure what you agreed OR you're not sure what the standard agreement is OR you're not sure pard will understand your bid, the best is to stay out of trouble and bid naturally. In that case I would bid 3 with your hand, intending to pass pard's 3NT or bid some nr. of clubs if he bids something else.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 11:13

i would bid 4N for the minors. This is quite standard.
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Posted 2007-August-25, 11:15

cherdano, on Aug 25 2007, 12:13 PM, said:

i would bid 4N for the minors. This is quite standard.

Ditto
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Posted 2007-August-26, 03:48

4NT is standout.

Just to be a little nitpicky: try to rearrange the hand in standard order, i.e. ---.
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Posted 2007-August-26, 04:34

I play leaping Michaels here (4m=GF with m+ 55+) and cuebid as basically stopper asking (in reality it shows a long solid suit and something in the unbid suit, could be bidding on after partner's response)).

Agree with other posters to overcall 4NT for the minors on this hand.
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Posted 2007-August-27, 03:51

Hi,

most likely the situation is not covered in the SAYC
booklet, so the answer is - no agreement.

You can ask, what is standard, I would say 4NT for
the minors is, and the hand is on the border.
If you believe the hand to weak for 4NT, just bid 3D
hoping that the opponents come to help or partner.

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