[kgr]

MP's, N dealer, all green
You have :
Jxxxx-Qxxxxx-x-x
And partner opens 1NT and RHO passes.
You have following agreements:
1) Transfer to H. Rem: You can't show a weak 5/5 because 2C is a relay to 2D and you show other hands afterwards. If you don't want to invite then you have to transfer (partner will break the transfer with a 4 card).
2) 1NT-2H-2S-3H : 5/5 invite (partner only bids 2S with less then 4 spades).
3) 1NT-4D : 5/5 GF and no slem interest
(I don't remember the actual hand - getting old - but it was a 5-6 with 3 HCP).
 
Will you bid different at IMP's?

[helene_t]

It's convenient here that you 2♥ followed by 3♥ as invitational (standard is GF. What would you bid with 5-4 GF?). That's what I'll bid, then.

[kgr]

helene_t, on Aug 18 2007, 12:50 PM, said:

What would you bid with 5-4 GF

1NT-2D-2H-2S: Any 4-5 or 4-6 in the majors, invite or better.

[skjaeran]

I'd transfer to ♥'s. If partner superaccepts I bid game.
If not, I continue with 2♠, showing 4-5 and an invite (playing Smolen).

I'd do the same with this hand playing IMPs.

[jdonn]

The way you play 2♦ 2♥ 2♠, which is not how I normally do, that seems like a fine choice. Since you are playing it a one round force I can always show a 6th heart next round. Under normal circumstances I would have bid stayman, raising 2♥ to 4, 2♠ to 3, and simply bidding 2♥ over 2♦, which is perhaps a bit wimpy.

[mike777]

kgr, on Aug 18 2007, 05:32 AM, said:

MP's, N dealer, all green
You have :
Jxxxx-Qxxxxx-x-x
And partner opens 1NT and RHO passes.
You have following agreements:
1) Transfer to H. Rem: You can't show a weak 5/5 because 2C is a relay to 2D and you show other hands afterwards. If you don't want to invite then you have to transfer (partner will break the transfer with a 4 card).
2) 1NT-2H-2S-3H : 5/5 invite (partner only bids 2S with less then 4 spades).
3) 1NT-4D : 5/5 GF and no slem interest
(I don't remember the actual hand - getting old    - but it was a 5-6 with 3 HCP).
 
Will you bid different at IMP's?

edit...I guess we do not play stayman.

[kenberg]

It doesn't seem to be too far wrong to start with 2D.

We have at most half the deck and there is a lot of shape, at least in my hand. I expect that my 2D call will bring, on my left, a double, or 2NT, or maybe a 3 level bid in the minors. And then partner will do what? But if lho passes my 2D and partner bids 2H and rho passes, I guess I will leave sleeping dogs lie i.e. I'll pass. Someone must have some minors, and with opps passing I guess it's pard, and I'll give up. If lho doubles 2D, followed by passes, so pard has two hearts only, then 2S sounds attractive. If pard bids 2H over the X of 2D, then things are looking up but being a pessimistic sort I will still pass. Shape is shape, but J-Q is still just a Jack and a Queen. I'll compete to 3H though (after 2D-X-2H) if they continue in diamonds. And do maximal doubles apply after 2D-X-2H-3D? It would be nice if they did so that 3H is unambiguously merely competitive. Something to discuss.

[kgr]

Thanks for the answers.
I did bid 2♦ and partner did bid 2♥ (denying 4 card ♥). 2 ♥ was passed out.
Opps did lead a ♣ and 2♥ made +2. We would make 5 on a ♦ lead.
I don't know partner's exact hand.
...I know partner had only 15HCP, so I guess he had something like : AQTx-Kxx-AQx-xxx with ♠K well positioned and ♥'s 2-2.

[Free]

Jlall, on Aug 18 2007, 11:09 PM, said:

I would transfer to hearts and pass.

Agree, unless p superaccepts

[rbforster]

I'd probably try an invitational sequence with both majors at MPs, but try a 4♥ signoff (via Texas or whatever) at IMPs.

kenberg, on Aug 18 2007, 07:50 PM, said:

do maximal doubles apply after 2D-X-2H-3D? It would be nice if they did so that 3H is unambiguously merely competitive.  Something to discuss.

I've played both sequences

1N-2D-(X)-2H-(3D) and
1N-2H-(X)-2S-(3H)

as maximal double situations in my regular partnerships. Seems reasonable.

[whereagles]

I'd bid game, via the system bids.