[Gerben42]

Scoring: MP

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What other calls do you consider making?

[mr1303]

1S for me. Because I have the spade suit. If I held hearts I might well consider a 3H opening, but I see no reason to pre-empt here.

[Fluffy]

I open one, but I consider 2 and 3 (never 4 sorry). I don't like 2♠, I'd open 3♠ against opponents who are stronger than us.

[Walddk]

I open 1♠; call me a simple soul. I don't like to experiment with 2 or 3♠ although 2♠ could work well. However, the problem with pre-empting is that partner may bid on where we should have defended. I have excellent cards for defence.

Roland

[the hog]

Do I read this correctly, - we are first in hand? Why on earth would you even contemplate any other bid apart from 1S? 2S is crazy.

[mike777]

1s if open on junk
2s if open on super sound.
For those who have no idea what super sound means...reread 1950 bridge.
2007 bridge mostly open on junk.

[Codo]

If I read the auction corecct, we are south as always in a problem and I would think about 2 ♠ before choosing 1 Spade for the reasons Roland gave.
In first hand this is a no brainer and no alternative 1 Spade opening bid.

For Gerben: Even in Wüppsietälsie Kärö.....

[Gerben42]

We are South, dealer is North, i.e. 3rd seat (see topic)

[hotShot]

The average strength of a first hand pass is 8 HCP, the second hands average is a little less than 9 HCP. So if the bidding goes pass - pass 3rd and 4th hand share 23+ HCP.
Holding 11 HCP of these, means that that LHO has 12+ HCP and his side will have about 21 hcp on average.

I don't think that opps can double 2♠ and they won't have game.
So bidding a final 2♠ seems appropriate.

[vang]

probably some of the voters didn't noticed we are in 3rd position.

i'll vote for 2S in 3rd (but a normal 1S in 1st).

[FrancesHinden]

I would open 1S most of the time.
I don't mind 2S if in the mood.
3S is not totally absurd, although I wouldn't usually.

Only 4S is completely off base, IMO.

[ochinko]

I have a good 6 cards spade suit that I'd be willing to bid to second level, right? So why would I not bid it right away given that partner is a passed hand?

Opps are most likely to compete in hearts where I am short, so I must take away at least some space from them.

The only downside to 2♠ is that we could miss a game. I don't think that's too probable though given that I have a 7 loser hand, and partner should have more than 7.

In short, I bid 2♠ at all vulns and forms of scoring, and there's no other call I would consider.

[jtfanclub]

If partner has

xxxx
xxxx
Kxxx
x

we've got a good shot at game. We have Minisplinters available in my preferred system, and while I wouldn't expect to find game across this particular hand, there's lots of game possibilities here.

I bid 1 spade. I save 2 spades for hands that don't have a reasonable shot of game across a passed hand.

[skjaeran]

Playing Drury and Minisplinters, I'd open this 1♠. 2♠ is also quite OK by me - I don't mix up my 3rd seat 2-level openings normally.

[ochinko]

jtfanclub, on Aug 23 2007, 06:41 PM, said:

If partner has

xxxx
xxxx
Kxxx
x

we've got a good shot at game.

With that hand I expect my partner to bid the same number of spades as opps would bid in hearts up to level four. (If I open 2♠, that is.)

Come on, we haven't thrown away all that we've learned in the good all days when we believed in the Law, have we?

[inquiry]

1♠ and i am not considering any other bid.

[TimG]

Why hasn't Richard told us that the right thing to do is open 1♠60% of the time, 2♠35% of the time and 1NT 5% of the time?

[pclayton]

1♠. I would open this 3♠ after, say, 4 cups of coffee.

[pbleighton]

1S seems clear. We may well have game opposite a passed hand, so 2S and 3S are out playing standard methods, and this isn't the hand to open 4S.

Peter

[bid_em_up]

pclayton, on Aug 23 2007, 01:53 PM, said:

1♠. I would open this 3♠ after, say, 4 cups of coffee.

I would open this 3♠ after, say, 4 cups of Irish coffee.