[kfay]

Scoring: IMP

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I passed this hand 1st seat and probably set a record for the strongest pass of my life:

Pass - Pass - 1♣ - Pass
 1♠  - Pass - 1NT - Pass
 2♦* - Pass - 2NT - Pass
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*Regular NMF

Now I regretted my initial action but wasn't sure how to move on, thoughts?

[TylerE]

Abstain. Would have bid 3♠ over 1NT

[jdonn]

This hand is a perfect example of an obvious system improvement that no one seems to use, which has been published by Marshall Miles. If playing regular NMF, either by a passed hand or always, 2♣ should always be the NMF bid even if the opening was 1♣. That way when partner doesn't have four hearts or three spades, he can just bid 2♦ rather than 2NT, and this hand could follow up with 2♠ and not risk going to the three level to show its spade length. In addition, it's actually more valuable to have a natural 2♦ bid than a natural 2♣ bid, as they will never let you play in 2♣ when you have a fit there anyway.

In the given situation, I like your first pass and I like pass now. I don't see why you regret your initial action, it seems to have kept you out of a bad game presuming partner is showing a minimum and doesn't have three spades.

[Trumpace]

What is wrong with passing in 1st seat? Values are too scattered. I would not open this.

is NMF forcing to game or just one round?

In the case of latter, passing 2NT seems right.

[han]

I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game .

[neilkaz]

I wouldn't open this acelwss 11 count with no stiffs and a weak 6 card suit, but rather than NMF, I show my 6 card invite with 3♠

[skjaeran]

Hannie, on Aug 22 2007, 07:37 PM, said:

I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game .

Agree. I'd never pass this hand.

[jdonn]

skaeran, on Aug 22 2007, 03:16 PM, said:

Hannie, on Aug 22 2007, 07:37 PM, said:

I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game .

Agree. I'd never pass this hand.

I could be misinterpreting, but I take the smiley after "we found game" to mean that the game they found did not make

[Fluffy]

jdonn, on Aug 21 2007, 06:36 PM, said:

This hand is a perfect example of an obvious system improvement that no one seems to use, which has been published by Marshall Miles. If playing regular NMF, either by a passed hand or always, 2♣ should always be the NMF bid even if the opening was 1♣. That way when partner doesn't have four hearts or three spades, he can just bid 2♦ rather than 2NT, and this hand could follow up with 2♠ and not risk going to the three level to show its spade length.

I don't know NMF, but on my view 2♠ would just mean I want to play in 5-2 rather than NT.


French play 2♣ as limit+ relay and 2♦ as sing off since I have memories of bridge (14 years). It is not NMF though, they only focus on finding responder's major fit. Eventually trying 4-4 in hearts at the 3 level later (it happened very few times that I can remember)

[Fluffy]

TylerE, on Aug 21 2007, 06:07 PM, said:

Abstain. Would have bid 3♠ over 1NT

Some (many) people play 3♠ as forcing

I would bid 3♠ now

[han]

jdonn, on Aug 22 2007, 06:29 PM, said:

skaeran, on Aug 22 2007, 03:16 PM, said:

Hannie, on Aug 22 2007, 07:37 PM, said:

I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game .

Agree. I'd never pass this hand.

I could be misinterpreting, but I take the smiley after "we found game" to mean that the game they found did not make

Donn!

You are misinterpreting.

[the hog]

I would have opened the hand. Given that I passed initially, I would pass again now. I certainly would NOT bid 3S which should show a far better suit.