[mr1303]

Personally, a large percentage of the time I'm going to pass 2H. KQxxxx and an outside K looks like an automatic weak 2 any seat any vulnerability, and opposite that hand, game has virtually no chance at all.

I'm not going to hang partner for trying to make life difficult for the opponents.

[skjaeran]

I'll go for 2NT.
Over 3♦ I'll rebid 3NT.
Over 3♣/♠ I'll bid 4♥.

[FrancesHinden]

I think this is way short of a game force.
It's close between a pass and an invite. At matchpoints it's easiest to pass quickly and hope LHO fancies a light protection(!).

There's clearly no 'obviously correct' answer to this. The following both look like non-minimum weak twos with a diamond feature:


xxx
KQJ109x
Kxx
x

(game is very good indeed, though not cold)

x
AQ109xx
Qxx
Jxx

(I don't fancy 4H at all)

My instinct is to pass 2H and expect to miss some games.

[han]

Thanks for the support Brits, I felt quite lonely among all those gameforcers.

[Echognome]

Hannie, on Aug 14 2007, 10:01 AM, said:

Thanks for the support Brits, I felt quite lonely among all those gameforcers.

Passing has some big potential upsides too. Lefty may decide to balance!

I think it's difficult and it depends somewhat on how sound you play your weak 2's. At this position and vulnerability is when I play the soundest. That's what pushes me to an invite.

[cherdano]

We all like to have T9 besides the top honors for a weak 2, but it seems to me in practice we only remember this when we construct hands for partner opposite our singleton trump support. Even KQJxxx will lose two heart trick more often than not, and xx KQ98xx Kxx xx is still a maximum weak two for me at these colours (thank good it's a free world). I got convinced pass is right at matchpoints.

[mike777]

I guess alot more people than I realize open 2H in second seat at unfav vul on real junk.

I fail to see how we could not force to game, some game assuming partner has not psyched.

We are told medium sound.....geez we may have a slam if super sound.

[ArtK78]

A 3NT response to 2NT shows a solid suit - AKQJxx minimum. The whole point of the bid is to show a suit worth six tricks opposite a small singleton.

So, if partner responds 3NT to my 2NT, I will pass.

Otherwise, my hand is more than sufficient to play in 4♥ opposite anyone who opens 2♥ red against not in second seat.

[cherdano]

ArtK78, on Aug 14 2007, 01:52 PM, said:

A 3NT response to 2NT shows a solid suit - AKQJxx minimum. The whole point of the bid is to show a suit worth six tricks opposite a small singleton.

A 3NT response to 2NT shows AKQxxx or better. The whole point of the bid is to show a running suit opposite a small doubleton to help partner choose between 3N and 4M.

Seriously, I just hate those kind of universal claims unless they are really based on knowing what a lot of experts play, or having read various MSC discussions etc.

[jtfanclub]

ArtK78, on Aug 14 2007, 02:52 PM, said:

A 3NT response to 2NT shows a solid suit - AKQJxx minimum.

Minimum?

How much better does hand have to be before you, I dunno, open it 1 heart?

[nige1]

Jlall, on Aug 13 2007, 03:59 PM, said:

MP you pick up ♠ A Q J x ♥ x ♦ A J x x ♣ K Q x x

Partner opens 2H 2nd seat red/white. Partner is medium level soundness at this vul. Your system is feature. What do you do? If you ask for a feature what is your plan over the various followups?

IMO 2N = 10, _P = 8, 4♥ = 4, 3N = 2.

Opposite a minimum, game prospects are poor but most maximums provide a fair play for game at this vulnerability. The main reason that you should try, IMO, is that partner may have 6-4 or 6-5 shape and then game may be good

[benlessard]

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Partner had T8xx AQTxxx K xx

I hope he's a student... or at least paying your entry fees + the food (beers also of course)

[Fluffy]

benlessard, on Aug 15 2007, 08:15 PM, said:

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Partner had T8xx AQTxxx K xx

I hope he's a student... or at least paying your entry fees + the food (beers also of course)

uh?, What flaw did you see in his bidding?

[Codo]

Fluffy, on Aug 16 2007, 06:22 AM, said:

benlessard, on Aug 15 2007, 08:15 PM, said:

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Partner had T8xx AQTxxx K xx

I hope he's a student... or at least paying your entry fees + the food (beers also of course)

uh?, What flaw did you see in his bidding?

That you are not able to reach 4 Spade in the 4/4 fit?

You are in second position, so your risk to preempt partner is 50 %. You better have a clear cut non discussable weak two in this case or you loose any post mortem.
You had loose exactly nothing by passing this hand.