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Bidding Problem 1 To slam or not to slam?

#1 User is offline   zasanya 

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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:12

Scoring: IMP

Setting:Important event 10 board match;Winner takes 1st place
Bidding :1NT-x-?


1NT=15-17;dbl for majors.
What to do?
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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:19

I redouble for penalties. If partner can double then I'm happy to defend. I have so much strength that if they can't find a fit, defending likely pays more than the game bonus.

If Partner can't double then I will bid 3NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:20

Oh, and "not to slam" of course, unless something unusual happens.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:24

Time to pull out the blue card, avenger of poor opposing agreements.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 07:52

Redouble, assuming it is not conventional.

This hand is not a slam-going hand. Too many honors in short suits.

If the opps did not bid over 1NT, I was going to bid game. Why should I try for slam now when they tell me that my major suit cards are worth less than I thought they were?
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  Posted 2007-August-09, 08:18

You send it back, and send it right now mister - blue card followed by doubles at each and every opportunity unless pard can't hit 2H; then you think about 3NT.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 11:12

keylime, on Aug 9 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

You send it back, and send it right now mister - blue card followed by doubles at each and every opportunity unless pard can't hit 2H; then you think about 3NT.

I wouldn't double 2 if partner can't. Not at these colors.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 11:20

If pard had three-four spades I would smack it around; a doubleton tho and then I would yank it.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 11:22

Your posts in this thread do not make sense to me Dwayne, maybe I'm missing part of the slang.

In your first post you said redouble and keep doubling unless partner can't double 2H.

In your second post (the way I understand it) you say you don't want to defend 2S if partner has a doubleton spade. How is this going to work out for you, does partner need to pull your penalty double with a doubleton?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-August-09, 11:32

This is a good auction for Weasel, which I have had successfully used against me on several occasions. The idea is that a fast double by partner indicates a four-card trump holding, and should be left in. A slow double shows a three-card trump holding, which we can leave in when the suit is spades and remove when the suit is hearts. A pass shows a two-card trump holding and we bid 3NT.
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Posted 2007-August-09, 11:37

Adam,

I gather this convention is "modern" and "progressive" thusly worthy of inclusion in the next ACBL encyclopedia edition? :)
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Posted 2007-August-09, 18:21

If opps' double is conventional, then i can redouble to show cards.
But, if the double is cards-showing, then my redouble are SOS, forcing my partner to bid 2, i may pass or correct to 2.
Maybe not efficient, but to me, it's easy to understand.
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Posted 2007-August-10, 02:28

zasanya, on Aug 9 2007, 08:12 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Setting:Important event 10 board match;Winner takes 1st place
Bidding :1NT-x-?


1NT=15-17;dbl for majors.
What to do?

Ty for all the replies.Just to complete the story..

I was the NT bidder.My hand was KxAxxkxxxAKxx.
LHO the dblr had QJxxxjxxxxxQx.If my P had redoubled I think 2M goes 5dn, if not 6. + 1100 or 1400.
My P believing the dblr [who is a real expert with a 'conservative bidder reputation'(!)] bid 3NT! On Q lead 13 tricks rolled home.+720.
On the other table they were playing 14-16NT and 17 + .Dealer opened 1 and they easily bid 6.-1390
12 imps lost.Worse, P thought he was "not aggressive enough" so tried to make up on another board and we lost that too.
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Posted 2007-August-10, 03:09

zasanya, on Aug 9 2007, 08:12 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Setting:Important event 10 board match;Winner takes 1st place
Bidding :1NT-x-?


1NT=15-17;dbl for majors.
What to do?

Hi,

chances for slam are remote.
The only question I have to answer,
do we go for blood, or do we play 3NT.

Given the vulnerability, we need to beat
their contract -3 to -4 to be break even,
so I would simply bid 3NT and be done with
it, but I can understand XX.

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Posted 2007-August-10, 03:22

A primed-out 17-count like you held is way too strong for 1NT, IMO.

Compare the two following hands:

Kx Axx Kxxx AKxx
Kx QJx QJxx KQJx

Both are in the "15-17" range, of course, but I personally would not open the first 1NT because it is too strong, and I might not open the second 1NT because it is too weak.

I'd open a minor with this hand, and partner's 14-count will surely convince him later to bid the slam, or me if he shows that.
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