overcall
#1
Posted 2007-August-01, 14:18
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With everyone vulnerable, your RHO opens 1C. Would you overcall 1H or double?
Say you bid 1H, LHO passes and partner bids 3C which shows a mixed raise (say about 7-9 HCP with at least 4-card support). What now?
- hrothgar
#2
Posted 2007-August-01, 14:28
#4
Posted 2007-August-01, 14:36
George Carlin
#5
Posted 2007-August-01, 14:39
Hannie, on Aug 1 2007, 03:18 PM, said:
AKxx
Axxxx
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With everyone vulnerable, your RHO opens 1C. Would you overcall 1H or double?
Say you bid 1H, LHO passes and partner bids 3C which shows a mixed raise (say about 7-9 HCP with at least 4-card support). What now?
Agree with the bidding.
Now I just bid the Vul. game. Yes it may have no play.
#6
Posted 2007-August-01, 14:39
- hrothgar
#8
Posted 2007-August-01, 14:52
After a mixed raise by partner, I bid game. I consider this to be clear at IMPs.
#9
Posted 2007-August-01, 16:04
Over a mixed raise? This hand looks pure, and I'll make a game try.
#10
Posted 2007-August-01, 16:18
#11
Posted 2007-August-01, 16:43
As to the next call. I seem have have a need for about four covers. The range of "about 7-9 HCP's" does not help me much, unfortunately. If this were what one partner of mine calls a "limix raise," meaning about 2 to 2 1/2 assured cards and a stiff, I'd assume a stiff spade and 2 1/2, which gets me really close. If "7-9" looks like "three cards and a doubleton," I'd bid game also.
This is why I hate HCP ranges without more understanding. What am I supposed to expect here? I have a rather pure hand -- Aces and spaces -- with seven losers by LTC, a minimum for what I would call an overcall. The non-minimum feel of this thing is merely the undervaluation of Aces.
If I sit here and imagine a likely "7-9" hand, perhaps ♦A, ♥K, and a side Jack? What's that do for me? I lose a heart, a club, and two diamonds, and I still need some shape in spades and a nice heart split. If I imagine ♥K, ♥Q, and ♠Q, or maybe the diamond Ace, then I lose two diamonds and a club, if all else works out well. Replace the diamond Ace or spade Queen with the diamond King, and I hate this contract.
-P.J. Painter.
#12 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-August-01, 18:50
Over 3C I would just bid 4H, some days partner has diamond shortness.
#13
Posted 2007-August-01, 19:00
- R. Buckminster Fuller
#14
Posted 2007-August-01, 19:06
#15
Posted 2007-August-01, 19:09
jdonn, on Aug 1 2007, 07:06 PM, said:
Why should he be lighter in practice? If there was no weaker raise available I would understand, but here with bad hands partner can bid 3♥ or (Bergen^H^H^H god forbid) 2♥...
#16
Posted 2007-August-01, 19:11
Actually the weak to intermediate hands with 4S & 5H (say 8/9-11/12) can be shown by using a 2D mini-flannery overcall against a natural 1C : you pay your money and take your chances if you will (just take any control and put it in the D suit and it becomes a takeout double for me, and without the specific agreement, I think 1H on a semi-decent carder as that is the only way to find 5-3 H fits realistically - and he can still bid 1S forcing in response to it).
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