[Wayne_LV]

>I don't think that the ACBL has the internal competancies to bite off anything that ambitious. There's always the chance that the French might. (They have a much more standardized approach towards bidding)

Maybe SEF would suffice till something better comes along? I have not been able to find a website that defines SEF. Does one exist?

Wayne

[kenberg]

Maybe the following could be useful. Instead of promoting SAYC, promote the SAYC-like BBO Basic. It's also brief, surely it is limited, but consider:

1. A mouse click takes you there. Any quarrel about what "BBO Basic" means can be settled immediately. For example, jump shifts are strong.

2. Nearby you find BBO advanced. Now BBO Advanced has more than enough cherries to keep most players busy and they cannot all be plucked w/o regard for how they fit. Some of these, however, could be freely added. Thus you could play BBO Basic plus, say, BBO rkc. Or plus BBO Inverted Minors. Or weak jump shifts. Again, this would give instant verification to what the designation means. For example, after an inverted minor raise, two level bids show stoppers, three level bids show shortness. You can go to the site and it says so. Of course some BBO Advanced conventions cannot be adopted without causing problems elsewhere (eg 2/1 =gf means you cannot play 1D-2N as the Basic-defined 13-15 unless you include a gadget to handle the hand that in Basic would be bid 1D-2C).


BBO has many good things on it and I suspect we could all make better use, in our pick up games, of the Basic and Advanced system notes. With discussion you can play conventions as you think best (of course). But this could give a quick path to immediate play with some decent understanding of what has been agreed to.

[hotShot]

Wayne_LV, on Jul 31 2007, 05:49 PM, said:

>I don't think that the ACBL has the internal competancies to bite off anything that ambitious. There's always the chance that the French might. (They have a much more standardized approach towards bidding)

Maybe SEF would suffice till something better comes along?  I have not been able to find a website that defines SEF.  Does one exist?

Wayne

It is identical to FORUM D and i think it is used in Italy too.
It is well defined, because it is the official system in France and Germany and the national bridge associations sell lecturing material for this system.
But I think someone is working on a SEF/Forum D FD-File already.

This is a link to an description that claims to be SEF.

[jtfanclub]

hotShot, on Jul 31 2007, 04:46 PM, said:

This is a link to an description that claims to be SEF.

My anti-virus software was *very* unhappy with that link.