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You're playing IMPs, Bracket 4, against competent opponents. What do you do? Does position in the match matter here?
Fun Hand from Nashville Just your ordinary 7-6
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Posted 2007-July-30, 09:07
You are dealt white on red in 1st chair this assortment of cards:
You're playing IMPs, Bracket 4, against competent opponents. What do you do? Does position in the match matter here?
You're playing IMPs, Bracket 4, against competent opponents. What do you do? Does position in the match matter here?
"Champions aren't made in gyms, champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill. " - M. Ali
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Posted 2007-July-30, 09:17
keylime, on Jul 30 2007, 10:07 AM, said:
You're playing IMPs, Bracket 4, against competent opponents.
I love these descriptions. Sort of like saying you're playing against self-proclaimed advanced players on BBO.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 09:31
Tim,
I was hoping you'd catch the potential sarcasm.
To be fair, this bracket was of good quality towards the end.
I was hoping you'd catch the potential sarcasm.
To be fair, this bracket was of good quality towards the end.
"Champions aren't made in gyms, champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill. " - M. Ali
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Posted 2007-July-30, 09:43
I pass for now.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 09:49
brrrrrr. 4♠?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 09:51
There are some very good players in some of the "lower" brackets in the KO events at the North American Championships. I was surprised to find myself in the third bracket playing with some reasonably competent friends in a bracketed KO in Chicago last year. There are so many good players playing in the KOs that the quality trickles down into the lower brackets. Take a look at some of the KO results in Nashville, especially brackets 2 and 3. There are some name players in those brackets.
In any event, any time you present a problem hand with 7-6 distribution, anything could be right. What would I do on these cards? I would probably open 4S and hope that I am in the ballpark on what is best. Clearly, the object is to get in the way of your vulnerable opponents without going for too large a number. I think 4S is the best way to get the job done.
Again, anything could be right, and I am sure someone will pass either awaiting developments or just staying out of the auction entirely.
In any event, any time you present a problem hand with 7-6 distribution, anything could be right. What would I do on these cards? I would probably open 4S and hope that I am in the ballpark on what is best. Clearly, the object is to get in the way of your vulnerable opponents without going for too large a number. I think 4S is the best way to get the job done.
Again, anything could be right, and I am sure someone will pass either awaiting developments or just staying out of the auction entirely.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 10:26
4S.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:06
Some say you should go slowly with freak hands, especially with spades. However, we are quite weak (in HCP) and white against red. I would probably open 4S.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:11
OK, here's the first of a few adjuncts. Let's say you passed like I did. The auction now comes back at you:
(1H) P (4H)
Now what?
(1H) P (4H)
Now what?
"Champions aren't made in gyms, champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill. " - M. Ali
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:13
I'm going to open 4♠ and try not to be clever on this hand.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:14
keylime, on Jul 30 2007, 09:11 AM, said:
OK, here's the first of a few adjuncts. Let's say you passed like I did. The auction now comes back at you:
(1H) P (4H)
Now what?
(1H) P (4H)
Now what?
Wonderful; I'll allowed the opponents to exchange information.
4♠ is obvious now. I'm stuck over 5♥, which seems inevitable.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:16
If I passed initially then I would bid 4S now. I would probably bid 5S next also.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:20
It wouldn't occur to me to do anything but open this hand 4S.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:21
This hand is the one hand that has been haunting my dreams lately. I did bid 4S, got doubled, RHO removed to five hearts, making.
At the other table, it went 4S-X-P-? and you're in passout seat with:
Q
T9xxx
x
KQJT9x
Anyone for 4NT? Pass? 5 of something?
At the other table, it went 4S-X-P-? and you're in passout seat with:
Q
T9xxx
x
KQJT9x
Anyone for 4NT? Pass? 5 of something?
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:28
5♣. 2nd choice 4N. 3rd choice 6♣.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:34
Agree with Helene.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:49
If you pull you avoid the 15 imp loss and loss of match that happened.
After the scoreup I hit the gym for about an hour by myself wondering why I had not opened 4♠ originally; it was a very bad night put it that way. At least I found a 4♠ call but still, I wasn't overly happy with my tactics here.
After the scoreup I hit the gym for about an hour by myself wondering why I had not opened 4♠ originally; it was a very bad night put it that way. At least I found a 4♠ call but still, I wasn't overly happy with my tactics here.
"Champions aren't made in gyms, champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill. " - M. Ali
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Posted 2007-July-30, 11:50
What do you mean "if you pull"? This sentence suggests that someone passed 4S!?!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 12:03
keylime, on Jul 30 2007, 12:21 PM, said:
This hand is the one hand that has been haunting my dreams lately. I did bid 4S, got doubled, RHO removed to five hearts, making.
At the other table, it went 4S-X-P-? and you're in passout seat with:
Q
T9xxx
x
KQJT9x
Anyone for 4NT? Pass? 5 of something?
At the other table, it went 4S-X-P-? and you're in passout seat with:
Q
T9xxx
x
KQJT9x
Anyone for 4NT? Pass? 5 of something?
I like 4N, two places to play.
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Posted 2007-July-30, 12:51
This is why you open the bidding 4S on the 7-6 hand. What a problem in passout seat!
Obviously I am not passing, but any number of clubs or hearts could be right. Partner's double is not 100% for takeout, so it is not automatic to bid hearts.
My first choice is 5C, as I do not want to guess that there is a slam here. The first obligation at IMPs is to get a plus score.
5NT - two places to play - is an interesting choice if you must bid a slam, but I would reject 5NT because I am going to unilaterally choose to play in clubs.
Knowing what I know about opener's hand, the 5C bid would give him a chance to bid 5D. But that would not occur to me at the table.
The real problem will come on the next round of bidding if it goes 5S-x. I suspect that I will pass 5Sx, but I won't be happy about it.
Obviously I am not passing, but any number of clubs or hearts could be right. Partner's double is not 100% for takeout, so it is not automatic to bid hearts.
My first choice is 5C, as I do not want to guess that there is a slam here. The first obligation at IMPs is to get a plus score.
5NT - two places to play - is an interesting choice if you must bid a slam, but I would reject 5NT because I am going to unilaterally choose to play in clubs.
Knowing what I know about opener's hand, the 5C bid would give him a chance to bid 5D. But that would not occur to me at the table.
The real problem will come on the next round of bidding if it goes 5S-x. I suspect that I will pass 5Sx, but I won't be happy about it.