irdoz, on Aug 1 2007, 03:03 AM, said:
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I am willing to bet more early death from water than epo.....maybe hundred times more?
I assume you dont mean drowning in water sports. Sure hyperhydration after intense exercise is sadly still too common a cause of death. And yes more people will have died from hyperhydration after intense exercise than from EPO. But the water which is being used that causes death in hyperhydration is generally being used after the 'performance' - and not to enhance performance. And although hyperhydration is often commonly referred to as 'water poisoining' the cause of death is usually attributed to the underlying cause - dehydration after intense exercise.
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Pain killers ok.....speed ok....greenies, ok...reds ok alcohol.....etc etc...but not epo?
1. Pain killers are banned by most olympic sports federations
2. Speed is banned by all olympic federations.
3. Greenies - something to do with people who like trees?
4. Reds - an old fashioned term to describe communists?
5. EPO is not some 'exception'...the banned list is quite long.
But then while you may have a poiint about the difficulty of determining a dividing line you have missed the point about the necessity of a line - and no i dont want to define the parameters for divining such a line.
ok again I see many seem not to understand the basics
If you do not know what greenies or reds are I give up
If you do not know that millions get sick from natural drinking water..I give up
Again it seems everyone defines...enhancing or chemicals much too narrow.
My main point to repeat is....enhancing chemicals are allowed in many forms...these chemicals make millions sick or kill all over the world.
Of course epo and aspirin are not exactly the same, so what?
They are both chemicals, they both enhance performance...they both make people ill. For all I know asprin kills almost as many as epo or more?
I am willing to bet pain killers lead to more deaths or illness than epo...muchmore.
Again this all seems arbitrary.
No one even comments on things such as enhanced surgery etc....
The world of sports is much bigger than olympics...I fail to see why posts continue to define this stuff in such tiny, tiny terms...
As helene points out there are many many more than two federations of sports, worldwide,, think bigger.