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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2007-July-21, 04:35

Scoring: IMP

(p)-p-(1)-2
(DBL)-P-(p)-?
You play with a pickup partner on BBO.
Do you agree with 2 michaels?
What do you bid now?
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Posted 2007-July-21, 04:50

I don't agree with Michaels,, for two reasons:
1) I like to play it either weak or very strong. This hand is intermediate (though potentially excellent). This is a style issue, it may not apply to you.
2) Pd won't think 6-6.

I would bid 1S, then rebid 3D, then rebid spades if I get the opportunity.

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Posted 2007-July-21, 04:56

pbleighton, on Jul 21 2007, 12:50 PM, said:

I don't agree with Michaels,, for two reasons:
1) I like to play it either weak or very strong. This hand is intermediate (though potentially excellent). This is a style issue, it may not apply to you.
2) Pd won't think 6-6.

I would bid 1S, then rebid 3D, then rebid spades if I get the opportunity.

Peter

Agree.
As for the current auction, I'd rebid 2.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 07:59

I don't have a problem with it, as long as you call this the strong version.

I bid 4 diamonds. If partner passes again, I'll check his pulse. I don't care if I make it or not, I'm not stopping below game.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 08:51

jtfanclub, on Jul 21 2007, 08:59 AM, said:

I don't have a problem with it, as long as you call this the strong version.

I bid 4 diamonds. If partner passes again, I'll check his pulse. I don't care if I make it or not, I'm not stopping below game.

I bid 4s
if p doesn't like spades they can ask for the minor.
this way I am sure we are not stopping below game.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 09:06

This is a potentially explosive situation, so you need to put partner in the picture by revealing your minor at some level. However, a diamond bid by you will suggest 5-6. So I believe that the best tactic is to underbid with 3 and follow that with 4. I don't believe that the opps will be able to pass this one out at 3.

Other possibilities include repeating the cue (3), which ought to imply 6-6, and jumping to 3, which ought to show 6-5m. But 4 by responder could prevent your showing which minor you hold below the 5 level.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 10:07

I don't like the thought of not bidding michaels with this. It makes it easy for me to bid 4S next over 4H. If I bid 1S then I have to bid 4S over 4H and risk being in a silly contract as I've never shown my second suit.

I would bid 4D now.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 11:01

kgr, on Jul 21 2007, 05:35 AM, said:

<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> West </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> Both </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> KQT854 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> 8 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> AJ9752 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td>  </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->
(p)-p-(1)-2
(DBL)-P-(p)-?
You play with a pickup partner on BBO.
Do you agree with 2 michaels?
What do you bid now?

I rail against Michaels bid more than anyone here on the forums. :lol:

This is a clear strong version for me so 2H michaels no problem yet.

4D rebid now, no problem yet.

Pard knows we are vul at IMPs and sees what I bid.
As usual willing to give up on slam after a one level bid in first seat by opp.
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Posted 2007-July-21, 16:16

4 diamonds
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Posted 2007-July-22, 10:05

Scoring: IMP

(P)-p-(1H)-2H
(DBL)-P-(P)-3D
All pass

Making 3+2... For the answers it seems like a should bid more if having distribution. (I didn't really expect that 3 would be passed out. I wanted to show my minor in case bidding would get competitive and planned to rebid 3/4).
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Posted 2007-July-24, 07:58

I'd have bid 3 so we can stop in 3 if partner is broke.
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Posted 2007-July-24, 13:01

On the layout you have given us, it appears that 11 tricks in requires that RHO hold 3 and the doubleton K, while 10 tricks in requires trapping the J. Provided that the defense starts , which seems very likely.

What am I missing?
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Posted 2007-July-26, 04:11

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Posted 2007-July-26, 04:48

I agree with Michaels no matter what style we play. I bid 4 now. Second choice 3. I don't like 4, IMHO it shows longer or much better than spades.
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Posted 2007-July-26, 05:49

helene_t, on Jul 26 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

I don't like 4, IMHO it shows longer or much better than spades.

Why? It's a very convenient and descriptive way of showing your minor - pd can choose a game or even pass if he really abhors his misfitting hand.
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