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Another team game hand

Poll: Your plan? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

Your plan?

  1. Pass 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Bid 2NT (OGUST) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Start with 3D, pass if partner rebids 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Start with 3D, plan to bid 3S over 3H (19 votes [76.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.00%

  5. Start with 2S, will correct 3C to 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Start with 2S, will bid 3D over 3C (5 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  7. Start with 2S, will bid 3NT over 3C (1 votes [4.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.00%

  8. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2007-July-16, 12:53

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Partner opens a weak two in hearts, moderately sound at these colors (partner is not a junior). What's your plan? If you start with 3♦, partner will rebid 3♥; if you start with 2♠, partner will rebid 3♣ (natural, but could be just values in club).
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Posted 2007-July-16, 12:55

3D to be followed with 3S and then 4S so that partner knows that I'm 5-6 and can decide which suit to play in. I may miss a slam opposite the heart ace but without a good fit there's a lot of work to do.
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  Posted 2007-July-16, 13:26

Adam, for the sake of clarity, what is 2NT in this construction?
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Posted 2007-July-16, 13:29

keylime, on Jul 16 2007, 02:26 PM, said:

Adam, for the sake of clarity, what is 2NT in this construction?

the poll says ogust.
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Posted 2007-July-16, 14:22

As stated in the poll, 2NT is ogust. This is asking about opener's hand; opener rebids:

3♣ to show minimum values and a poor suit relative to vulnerability
3♦ to show minimum values and a good suit (headed by AK, AQJ, or KQJ at red)
3♥ to show maximum values and a poor suit relative to vulnerability
3♠ to show maximum values and a good suit
3NT to show a suit headed by the AKQ (and therefore very little outside)

After opener's rebids, particularly those showing a good suit, it's normally assumed that hearts are agreed; in other words 2♥-2NT-3♦-3♠ would be a cuebid for hearts.

Also, new suit responses to a weak two are forcing in this partnership (I know some people play 2♥-3♦ NF but that's not standard in most places and not the case in this partnership).
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Posted 2007-July-16, 15:18

Jlall, on Jul 16 2007, 08:55 PM, said:

3D to be followed with 3S and then 4S so that partner knows that I'm 5-6 and can decide which suit to play in. I may miss a slam opposite the heart ace but without a good fit there's a lot of work to do.

What Justin said.
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Posted 2007-July-16, 16:40

2♠ and 3NT next, explaining my hand over the safe level doesn't help.
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Posted 2007-July-16, 16:54

Facing a 1 suited weak 2 bid I would just bid out my shape and let pard work out if we belong in 5D or 4S. Slam is not in my photo book, but if pard comes to life I can be pursuaded.
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Posted 2007-July-17, 12:03

Here's the actual hand:

Scoring: IMP


No game makes. 5♦ is the best-scoring game contract, failing by one trick only; that's where Justin's auction should end. 3NT probably has the best chance to make, but is also likely to fail by multiple tricks when it doesn't make (and it will go down a bunch on the actual hands).

Both tables in the team game reached 4♥, failing by two tricks at one table and three at the other.
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Posted 2007-July-17, 15:19

Wow, I am really getting confused and puzzled by this bidding lately. Not only here in the forum posted hands from real life but from online acbl bidding. I feel I am in the twilight zone for bidding. :)
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