What has p been smoking?
#1
Posted 2007-July-16, 08:31
(p)-p-(1♥)-4♣
(p)-4♦-(4♥)-p
(p)-4♠-(p)-?
x
xxx
Jx
AQxxxxx
#2
Posted 2007-July-16, 08:33
#4
Posted 2007-July-16, 08:59
Who among us would bid 4♦ to play in such a situation?
#5
Posted 2007-July-16, 08:59
He should not convert a minor to a minor unless he is sure there is a better fit. So I'm sure he has a ♣ void and has at least 7 cards in ♦.
#6
Posted 2007-July-16, 09:05
bhall, on Jul 16 2007, 09:59 AM, said:
Partner is a passed hand.
#7
Posted 2007-July-16, 09:06
Roland
#8
Posted 2007-July-16, 09:16
Axxx void Axxxxx Jxx?
And he is trying for slam?
Sure, this is silly, but so is his bidding... he should not be 5-7 in the pointed and too weak to bid initially...that hand calls for a pass of 4♣, not an unpassable 4♦ call: he should reason that 4♦ is not passable since it makes no sense to want to land in 4♦ rather than 4♣.
So I bid 5♣... aware I may make 6 and aware that this may be a silly spot
#9
Posted 2007-July-16, 09:30
mikeh, on Jul 16 2007, 07:16 AM, said:
Axxx void Axxxxx Jxx?
And he is trying for slam?
Sure, this is silly, but so is his bidding... he should not be 5-7 in the pointed and too weak to bid initially...that hand calls for a pass of 4♣, not an unpassable 4♦ call: he should reason that 4♦ is not passable since it makes no sense to want to land in 4♦ rather than 4♣.
So I bid 5♣... aware I may make 6 and aware that this may be a silly spot
Perhaps 4N caters to this possibility.
I'm a 5♦ bidder. This isn't a terrible dummy opposite a 7-5.
#10
Posted 2007-July-16, 10:00
pclayton, on Jul 16 2007, 10:30 AM, said:
mikeh, on Jul 16 2007, 07:16 AM, said:
Axxx void Axxxxx Jxx?
And he is trying for slam?
Sure, this is silly, but so is his bidding... he should not be 5-7 in the pointed and too weak to bid initially...that hand calls for a pass of 4♣, not an unpassable 4♦ call: he should reason that 4♦ is not passable since it makes no sense to want to land in 4♦ rather than 4♣.
So I bid 5♣... aware I may make 6 and aware that this may be a silly spot
Perhaps 4N caters to this possibility.
I'm a 5♦ bidder. This isn't a terrible dummy opposite a 7-5.
If he has 5=7 (or such) then 4N does cater to it: certainly 4N has the aura of confusion appropriate to the auction and my state of mind.
However, if the genius across the table thinks that his bids clearly show the hand I am visualizing, then 4N says that I like my hand for slam purposes but not enough to jump to 6♣.... and I don't like my hand enough to bid that way.... the xxx in ♥s is great but my trump are weak and I don't like my ♦ holding. I'd bid 4N with AK10xxxx of clubs and the same hand.
Of course, to indulge in this level of subtlety on this auction suggests that I've ben smoking from the same pipe as partner
#11 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-July-16, 11:15
#12
Posted 2007-July-16, 11:55
Jlall, on Jul 16 2007, 07:15 PM, said:
Good point. When you've no clue whatsoever what partner is up to, find the bid that forces him to place the contract.
Harald
#13
Posted 2007-July-16, 12:42
Afterwards I wondered if that was unnecessary cryptic. While 4♦ will typically be based on a clubs fit, 4♠ suggests that he has a two-suiter. Anyway I think p should have passed 4♣ and that he should have understood 4N.
#14 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-July-16, 12:45
helene_t, on Jul 16 2007, 01:42 PM, said:
Afterwards I wondered if that was unnecessary cryptic. While 4♦ will typically be based on a clubs fit, 4♠ suggests that he has a two-suiter. Anyway I think p should have passed 4♣ and that he should have understood 4N.
Pard needs to learn to pass 4C with a misfit hand.
#15
Posted 2007-July-16, 14:17
Silly me, I thought the poll choices were going to be:
Rabbit Tobacco
Pot
Herion
Opium
Hash
Coke
other
So many experts, not enough X cards.
#16
Posted 2007-July-16, 16:52
I don't know if he has diamonds (walking the dog with initial pass) or clubs, I'd bid 4NT and let him bid the final contract.

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