I was wondering how the software determines how many and how big each section is. I once ran a tourney with one section of 29 Tables. But I have seen tourneys with 20 Tables (ACBL) divided into 2 sections. Is there any way to adjust how many sections, or how big one section in a tourney can be?
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How are section sizes determined in BBO Tourneys?
#2
Posted 2007-July-08, 15:38
tony stack, on Jul 8 2007, 04:18 PM, said:
I was wondering how the software determines how many and how big each section is. I once ran a tourney with one section of 29 Tables. But I have seen tourneys with 20 Tables (ACBL) divided into 2 sections. Is there any way to adjust how many sections, or how big one section in a tourney can be?
Keep in mind for ACBL tourneys, Masterpoints are awarded per section, not for overalls. Only one section, and less MP would be given away.
There is a limit of the amount of MP per section regardless of size. For example an online 2000 table section would be awarded the same as a 20 table section.
#3
Posted 2007-July-08, 19:30
TD can't control section sizes. We assign sections based on a few criteria (indy/pairs? movement type? ). Generally clocked pair games have the smallest sections and survivor/swiss tend to have the largest.
#4
Posted 2007-July-10, 01:21
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Keep in mind for ACBL tourneys, Masterpoints are awarded per section, not for overalls. Only one section, and less MP would be given away.
Ah and this would make the crowd unhappy? sigh...
#5
Posted 2007-July-10, 08:04
uday, on Jul 8 2007, 08:30 PM, said:
TD can't control section sizes.
Interesting. As I learned the art of directing, figuring out how best to divide the field into sections is a significant part of the TD's job requiring some skill. While I would appreciate software that helps me do that, I'm not so sure about software that won't let me do it.
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#6
Posted 2007-July-10, 08:19
As BBO tournaments are by definition 1-session events there is not much point in the director having to decide section sizes. Also the low number of boards makes it very flexible.
Also the players are not bothered with the movement, they are automatically seated correctly.
So I'm not sure why one should have sections at all, for other reason but the silly one to maximize attendance points.
Also the players are not bothered with the movement, they are automatically seated correctly.
So I'm not sure why one should have sections at all, for other reason but the silly one to maximize attendance points.
#7
Posted 2007-July-10, 09:36
i don't want to get into (in this thread) *why* we want to maximize masterpoint awards, but there are a few reasons that breaking Ts into sections is desirable
1. if we're playing (say) 6 rounds, probably the best section size is 6. Then, perhaps section tops have a little more meaning, since you're competing against people who're playing the same opps.
2. I've yet to see a TD who had a good reason for wanting to control the section sizes, at least in the usual low-investment scenario of home-trained TD running an hour-long T just for kicks (with, say, psyches prohibited)
3. At least one of the movements (survivor) has a strong preference for large sections
4. in events that care, the software can probably do a better job of classification & balancing than the TD
None of this is to suggest that more control would be a bad thing. it would be a good thing, probably, but not cheap to implement.
1. if we're playing (say) 6 rounds, probably the best section size is 6. Then, perhaps section tops have a little more meaning, since you're competing against people who're playing the same opps.
2. I've yet to see a TD who had a good reason for wanting to control the section sizes, at least in the usual low-investment scenario of home-trained TD running an hour-long T just for kicks (with, say, psyches prohibited)
3. At least one of the movements (survivor) has a strong preference for large sections
4. in events that care, the software can probably do a better job of classification & balancing than the TD
None of this is to suggest that more control would be a bad thing. it would be a good thing, probably, but not cheap to implement.
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