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Posted 2007-July-08, 01:22
West North East South
- - 1♠ Dbl
4♠ Pass Pass Dbl
Pass Pass Pass
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"Hysterical Raisins again - this time on the World stage, not just the ACBL" mycroft
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Posted 2007-July-08, 02:19
I voted North 100% but it is a lot less clear than the other one. I think South is a little light on values for a 2nd double, and also she would rather have a singleton ♠. The good quality of the hearts makes the second dbl acceptable.
North has a clear 5♥ bid according to the LOTT. Still, I can imagine that she feels uncomfortable by bidding at the 5-level with such a lousy hand. At MPs I would seriously consider passing. At IMPs I think she really has to bid 5♥. I can imagine that some posters will disagree.
It is also bad luck, though. Move South's ♥KQ to the minors and nobody can make anything (so much for the LOTT). Then again, South will usually have a singleton ♠, which makes it more attractive for N to bid 5♥.
North has a clear 5♥ bid according to the LOTT. Still, I can imagine that she feels uncomfortable by bidding at the 5-level with such a lousy hand. At MPs I would seriously consider passing. At IMPs I think she really has to bid 5♥. I can imagine that some posters will disagree.
It is also bad luck, though. Move South's ♥KQ to the minors and nobody can make anything (so much for the LOTT). Then again, South will usually have a singleton ♠, which makes it more attractive for N to bid 5♥.
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Posted 2007-July-08, 02:28
Hi,
other, I am not sure, if I would make
the 2nd t/o, but it is ok.
From North view, it is touch and go,
if the 2nd t/o by Souths can be as light
as it seems, he may believe 4 tricks
are easier to get than 11.
A matter of partnership fine tuning.
With kind regards
Marlowe
other, I am not sure, if I would make
the 2nd t/o, but it is ok.
From North view, it is touch and go,
if the 2nd t/o by Souths can be as light
as it seems, he may believe 4 tricks
are easier to get than 11.
A matter of partnership fine tuning.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-July-08, 05:51
100/100
South doesn't have enough for the second double (in particular, (s)he has the wrong spade holding). You can that because NS actually have an 11-card heart fit, and yet 5H is still going for either 500 or 800 depending on the location of the CA.
North has to bid 5H over the double. Partner has made two take-out doubles and (s)he as 7-card support for one of partner's suits.
South doesn't have enough for the second double (in particular, (s)he has the wrong spade holding). You can that because NS actually have an 11-card heart fit, and yet 5H is still going for either 500 or 800 depending on the location of the CA.
North has to bid 5H over the double. Partner has made two take-out doubles and (s)he as 7-card support for one of partner's suits.
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Posted 2007-July-08, 06:31
Sometimes pre-empts work. If they didn't sometimes work, we wouldn't pre-empt.
After the 4 spades, South has a tough decision, and North has a tough decision. I would bid 5♥ with the North hand, as he has -1 defensive tricks and I don't like leaving in two way doubles with negative defensive tricks. But South could easily have a hand where that's exactly the wrong thing to do.
So on these hands, I congratulate the opponents, and move on.
After the 4 spades, South has a tough decision, and North has a tough decision. I would bid 5♥ with the North hand, as he has -1 defensive tricks and I don't like leaving in two way doubles with negative defensive tricks. But South could easily have a hand where that's exactly the wrong thing to do.
So on these hands, I congratulate the opponents, and move on.
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Posted 2007-July-08, 09:54
Agree with Frances, though I think north's mistake is more serious than south's.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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