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Fantunes' reverses Question about their system

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Posted 2007-July-05, 02:00

As you probably know, Fantunes play an EHAA-kind system. Their one-level responses to the unlimited one-level openings are limited though. I was wondering how they play the reverse rebids by opener. An example to clarify:

1(1) 1(2)
2?

(1) 14+ natural unbalanced
(2) 0-9 natural

What does 2 mean? Or, in general, what do these reverse rebids mean after a one-over-one?

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Posted 2007-July-05, 02:10

1 - 1 - 1NT is art. shows most 18+ hands
1 - 1 - 2 shows 6 - 4 (18+)

Because of the 1NT rebid they don't really have reverses after 1.

After 1 they play "normal" reverses:

1 - 1 () - 2 = 18+, 5+ 4+
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Posted 2007-July-05, 03:06

Gerben42, on Jul 5 2007, 03:10 AM, said:

1 - 1 - 1NT is art. shows most 18+ hands
1 - 1 - 2 shows 6 - 4 (18+)

Because of the 1NT rebid they don't really have reverses after 1.

After 1 they play "normal" reverses:

1 - 1 () - 2 = 18+, 5+ 4+

If they play normal reverses after a 1 opening, I assume their 2NT rebid is GF?
How about 1-1-2M, 1-1NT-2M and 1-1NT-2? Responder has now already denied a 4crd major. Also 18+ 6-4 then?
Do you know what their requirements for a balanced 15+ hand are? For instance, do they open a 2-4-5-2 with 1 or 1 (assuming values in the doubletons)?

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Posted 2007-July-05, 03:14

1 - 1 - 2: Artificial forcing bid
1 - 1 - 2: Unbalanced 18-20 with 3/4 (figures to have a fit somewhere)

After 1 - 1NT Gazilli applies, again taking care of the 18+ hands, but 2 is 6-4 18+

The forcing hands after 1 are in Multi-reverses i noticed...

1 - 1 - 2 and
1 - 1 - 2

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Posted 2007-July-05, 08:08

With Gert I play some modified version as well, without a polish twist. :)

After 1M openings you have Gazzilli to help you out. Also, 2NT is used for GF 6-4 distributions.

After 1 openings you have 1NT or 1-1NT-2 to show 18+ hands. Reverses typically show 6-4, although I think it might be better to use these for weak hands and 5-6. 2NT is used for GF hands, so you might as well make use of that tool for your 18+ 6-4 hands (which are basically GF most of the time).

After 1 openings we have several ways to show the hands we want to. The main part is 1NT and 2NT being 15-18 and 19-20. The rest needs some artificiality to deal with strong distributional hands and 23+ balanced:
- 1-1-2 and 1-1-2 as 2-way, while reverses in the Majors are always natural.
- 1-1-1 and 1-1-1 are also 2-way: either minimum and support or 23+ balanced.
- we use 1-1-2 as (2)3-way, to distinguish between hands with both minors (14-17 and 18+) and 23+ balanced
- other bids are common sense.
The advantage of all the 2-way bids is that opener can easily show what hand he really holds.
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