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what do you need for the 3!H bid

#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2007-June-19, 15:45


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     Pass  1♠    Pass
 2♥    Pass  3♥    Pass
 4♥    Pass  Pass  Pass
 


Playing SAYC not many agreements
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Posted 2007-June-19, 16:14

Style issue. Playing Fast Arrival, E should leap to 4♥. Playing Slow Arrival, E did the correct thing.
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Posted 2007-June-19, 19:09

What system are you playing?

What do 3H and 4H mean?

Peter
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Posted 2007-June-19, 23:50

Playing SAYC according to "the book", the 2♥ response promises a rebid; which means that 3♥ is forcing; which means that 3♥ must be GF. Since the 2♥ response wasn't itself GF, that means that 3♥ must show some extras (but not that many).

If you don't think you have enough for an immediate raise to 3♥ you have to temporise with 2♠ and then bid 3♥ on the next round.
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Posted 2007-June-20, 00:00

Hi,

I believe, that you should only bid 4H as East,
with a fairly tightly defined hand, you have no
idea, how strong responder is.
If you have enough to make game reasonable,
bid 3H and see what develops from it.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-June-20, 03:35

I'm a firm believer that

1♠ 2♥
4♥

should be a picture bid (hcp concentrated in the majors, no 1st round controls in the minors).

Any hand with heart support that doesn't comply to this should bid something else (2♠ or 2NT or 3♥, depending on what you play).
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Posted 2007-June-20, 04:35

Nuno that sounds like agreements not a Dogma of the system :rolleyes:.
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Posted 2007-June-20, 06:27

hum.. I didn't quite follow that, gonzalo. Care to rephrase? :D
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Posted 2007-June-20, 06:56

I sad it worng, will edit.

I'm a firm beleiver on raising partner's response only with 4 cards, its a pilar on my system.

But how to answer 1♠-2♥ with support doesn't look so crucial to me.
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