[DWM]

Scoring: MP

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Bidding all your way

P - 1♣
1♥ - 1NT
2♣

We play simple checkback stayman. I assume that this should be the case here as well since Dealer can still have an invitational hand.

As you have no fit and a minimum for the 1NT bid do you pass the 2♣ now or bid 2♦ as the convention says? Would your bid change if playing IMPS rather than MP's?

My thoughts were that P should not have 4-5 in the majors with 11 points as this would be opened, and unlikley to have a 10 point hand with 4-5 in the majors and much to shout about as this should be opened as well. Therefore he has 5 hearts and 10+/11 points otherwise balanced as he is happy to convert 2♠ into 2NT. Therefore leaving the 2♣ bid in could give us a good score

[Quantumcat]

What is checkback stayman?

[DWM]

After

1m - 1M
1NT

2♣ is a bit like stayman

First it asks for 3 card support for the major (max or min)
Then it asks for 4 card support for the other major (max or min)
Then it asks for strength of the hand.

slospin.net has a good page on it

[Fluffy]

I'd bid 2♣ before, now apss is appealing

[SoTired]

At IMPS, no question I pass for the safest positive. At MP, I bid 2D to allow a 2H sign-off, which will probably score higher than 2C.

[Quantumcat]

Wouldn't you have raised to 2♥ if you had three hearts? So responder knows you have two hearts already because you're balanced? If you had five spades and four hearts couldn't you just say 2♥ after the 1NT and if you had five hearts and four spades wouldn't opener have said 1♠ after your 1♥, if you had a spade fit? And what if you would just rather play in opener's clubs than 1 NT? Doesn't make much sense to me. But I've probably just missed the point entirely

[mike777]

DWM, on Jun 13 2007, 07:10 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

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Bidding all your way

P - 1♣
1♥ - 1NT
2♣

We play simple checkback stayman. I assume that this should be the case here as well since Dealer can still have an invitational hand.

As you have no fit and a minimum for the 1NT bid do you pass the 2♣ now or bid 2♦ as the convention says? Would your bid change if playing IMPS rather than MP's?

My thoughts were that P should not have 4-5 in the majors with 11 points as this would be opened, and unlikley to have a 10 point hand with 4-5 in the majors and much to shout about as this should be opened as well. Therefore he has 5 hearts and 10+/11 points otherwise balanced as he is happy to convert 2♠ into 2NT. Therefore leaving the 2♣ bid in could give us a good score

Geez is not playing 2clubs natural here more important than checkback by a passed hand?

[skjaeran]

mike777, on Jun 13 2007, 06:56 PM, said:

DWM, on Jun 13 2007, 07:10 AM, said:

Dealer: North Vul: None Scoring: MP

♠ AK2 ♥ J6 ♦ KT ♣ JT9752

Bidding all your way

P - 1♣
1♥ - 1NT
2♣

We play simple checkback stayman.  I assume that this should be the case here as well since Dealer can still have an invitational hand. 

As you have no fit and a minimum for the 1NT bid do you pass the 2♣ now or bid 2♦ as the convention says?  Would your bid change if playing IMPS rather than MP's?

My thoughts were that P should not have 4-5 in the majors with 11 points as this would be opened, and unlikley to have a 10 point hand with 4-5 in the majors and much to shout about as this should be opened as well.  Therefore he has 5 hearts and 10+/11 points otherwise balanced as he is happy to convert 2♠ into 2NT.  Therefore leaving the 2♣ bid in could give us a good score

Geez is not playing 2clubs natural here more important than checkback by a passed hand?

Mike, isn't it 40 years since people quit making natural low-level ♣ bids?

[Echognome]

Some people play 2-way nmf by an unpassed hand and 1-way nmf by a passed hand. (Precisely so you can play 2♣ as NF here.) Given that it only helps when clubs are opened (since 1♦ - 1♥/♠ - 1NT - 2♣-->2♦ is sufficient).

Anyway, I pass at IMPs and I will bid 2♦ as instructed at MPs (presuming I'm confident of our agreements).

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I suggest, that you rebid 2C the next time,
I know the suit is ugly, but it is a 6 carder.

I dont play Checkback, I play NMF, i.e. I
would have to bid 2NT, if 2D is the neg. bid,
do it, you can also bid 2H, partner should have
a 5 carder, why else bid 2C, so you play your
5-2 fit, since partner is a passed hand, he has
to pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe