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#1 User is offline   lenze 

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Posted 2004-January-15, 12:28

Playing in a 10 table club game (MPs) I picked up

S – 9
H – 9
D – AK54
C – KQT9762

Partner dealt and opened 2NT(20-21). I had an easy 4C(Gerber) bid. Partner replied 4NT(3 aces) and I had an EASY 7NT call. After the opening lead, partner claimed 14 tricks. Although several other pairs reached 7C, and others reached 6NT, we were the only pair in 7NT. What were they thinking?
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Posted 2004-January-15, 13:31

AQJx
AQJx
Jxx
AJ

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Posted 2004-January-15, 13:38

Yes, Eric that is a possibility. But as Barry Crane once said, don't play me for the perfect hand, as I won't hold it. Also, don't play me for the worst hand, as I won't hold that one either.
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Posted 2004-January-17, 11:25

lenze, on Jan 15 2004, 02:38 PM, said:

Yes, Eric that is a possibility. But as Barry Crane once said, don't play me for the perfect hand, as I won't hold it. Also, don't play me for the worst hand, as I won't hold that one either.

Maybe find out about K's and/or Queens if you have the tools, if GrandSlam going why not try to find out some more :P Believe me if you bid 7 NT and Posted Image break 4-0 behind you or the Posted Image don't behave, Barry Crane would have come up with a new rule for you, never to bid Grand Slam, unless you can count 13+ tricks for sure, with him.

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Posted 2004-January-17, 12:07

Clubs being 4-0 is no problem, as you have the top 6.
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Posted 2004-January-17, 20:53

lenze, on Jan 17 2004, 01:07 PM, said:

Clubs being 4-0 is no problem, as you have the top 6.

Pd has the Posted Image Ace, I don't know that he has the Jack too. But even if he does you can still only count 11 tricks, so Like I said earlier, ask for Kings. If he has 2 you can count 13 tricks for sure, still providing that pd has the J of Posted Image. You still have room left to make a GrandSlam force too. With all this room, go slow and find out as much as you can. :P

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Posted 2004-January-28, 14:58

i'm not exactly sure what they were thinking to make it to 7C, they were scared of the two singletons or perhaps a bad split in clubs if you only hold 2. You have A of clubs, opposite king, queen...TEN, no jack, so no 7NT I guess.

However, in 7C, you have the same problem with the split, so in honesty, I haven't a clue why they would not be in 7NT, lol.

So only way is to go slower, ask for kings, find 7NT, but I think even if partner showed 1 or 2 kings, I may still give it a try, he opened 2NT and shows 20-21, with his 3 aces, he has only shown me 12 of his points, he has 8-9 somewhere, so if he shows no kings, I know he has to have 8-9 in the rest, which is very likely to be the J of clubs (great!) or the Q of diamonds.
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Posted 2004-January-29, 03:55

lenze, on Jan 16 2004, 07:28 AM, said:

Playing in a 10 table club game (MPs) I picked up

S – 9
H – 9
D – AK54
C – KQT9762

Partner dealt and opened 2NT(20-21). I had an easy 4C(Gerber) bid. Partner replied 4NT(3 aces) and I had an EASY 7NT call. After the opening lead, partner claimed 14 tricks.  Although several other pairs reached 7C, and others reached 6NT, we were the only pair in 7NT. What were they thinking?

Guess it depends on what the opening lead was -- OR the opps didn't know how to refuse claim -- OR maybe the ststem alloed 14 tricke MINUS one to automatically be accepted :rolleyes:
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