[firmit]

In a strong club context - where 1♣ is (16)17+ all hands.

You are playing 2♦ as multi
1. pre-emptive 6c major ( upgraded to normal 6c opening 3./4. seat )
2. 22-24hp balanced
and
3. 6+ card suit 16-20hp 4-5 LTC

Example of no.3:
2♦-2♠-3♠
edit: KQ98xx AQ Kx AQx (correct no cards now )

1st and 2nd are rather normal I think - but number 3.... Maybe in a 2/1 style it might be useful, but in a strong club? Maybe to "pre-empt" the opponents? The opponents might not be able to overcall this way, as they might have done when opening 1♣....

Comments on the 3rd option please.

[inquiry]

Some competitive auctions could be problematic if partners six card suit can be a major.... and


2D - 3S

How do you get across the weaker of the strong hand with hearts? Not 3NT (balanced, or maybe 4NT), not 4 of a minor (strong hand with the minor)...

I include the first two options you have, and have a strong one suiter in my multi 2D as well, but I restrict the strong hand to the MINORS....

[pclayton]

I'm fine with the 3rd option, because I don't get dealt 14 cards very often

Seriously, I am toying with adding a single strong option to our 2♦ opener, and its giving me a little bit of heartburn. Wagner (weak 2 in either) seems so much cleaner to me.

Why is a 6 card major with a 20 count a problem in a strong club auction anyway?

[firmit]

inquiry, on Jun 6 2007, 05:14 PM, said:

Some competitive auctions could be problematic if partners six card suit can be a major.... and


2D - 3S

How do you get across the weaker of the strong hand with hearts? Not 3NT (balanced, or maybe 4NT), not 4 of a minor (strong hand with the minor)...

I include the first two options you have, and have a strong one suiter in my multi 2D as well, but I restrict the strong hand to the MINORS....

3♣ opening is not used in my system other than a pre-emptive in clubs.

Assigning 3♣ to show 4-5 LTC 16-20hp 36-40zp one-suiter frees up 2♦-2x-3♣ or even 2♦-3x-4♣.

This is not only a work-around - but might be a useful tool when partner has got a 2NT response. I know a norwegian system called "Rød kløver"/Red club - use this.

I don't think I will loose much by letting the "natural 3♣ pre-emptive" go...

[Trinidad]

firmit, on Jun 6 2007, 10:11 AM, said:

In a strong club context - where 1♣ is (16)17+ all hands.

You are playing 2♦ as multi
1. pre-emptive 6c major ( upgraded to normal 6c opening 3./4. seat )
2. 22-24hp balanced
and
3. 6+ card suit 16-20hp 4-5 LTC

Example of no.3:
2♦-2♠-3♠
edit: KQ98xx AQ Kx AQx (correct no cards now )

1st and 2nd are rather normal I think - but number 3.... Maybe in a 2/1 style it might be useful, but in a strong club? Maybe to "pre-empt" the opponents? The opponents might not be able to overcall this way, as they might have done when opening 1♣....

Comments on the 3rd option please.

In a strong club context, I would only put the weak options in the multi. It allows you to raise the preempt frequently, because you don't need to fear that partner has a strong hand. It also makes it possible to pass out the 2♦ bid. This means that the opponents cannot use the often succesful sit-back-and-wait-what-opener-actually-has approach.

Rik