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Posted 2007-May-21, 09:04

x JT9xxx x Jxxxx.

You open 3H (I'm sure not everyones choice lol), LHO bids 3N, partner bids 4H, RHO bids 4S, LHO bids 6S, and partner Xs. Your lead.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 09:33

Small club.

If partner has one sure trick, our 2nd trick is maybe in clubs, maybe not.
If partner has one sure trick and a ruff, our ruff is in clubs.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 09:35

looks like a minor lead.

partner either has a void and an ace cashing (diamonds) or AQ in a suit.

On the first one both minor leads beat, on the second we need to lead the right suit.

Clubs could not work if someone has singleton anyway, and diamonds might not be needed to be taken right now (but give 2 off), so it is still close between them.

I will go for a diamond because RHO can sometime have K and only a ruff beats the contract.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 10:45

Club.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 11:31

club... partner says, "Look at your hand and guess what I want you to lead."

Two rules:
1) Not a trump
2) Not our suit
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Posted 2007-May-21, 11:39

I will also say club. Partner should be prepared for a non-heart lead. LHO may have been bidding 3N on a long club suit and partner may be ruffing the opening lead. Alternatively, LHO may have been bidding 3N on a long diamond suit (likely), so we don't want to lead that unless partner has the A, in which case it may be cashing anyway.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 11:53

This might be crazy. But I'll lead a . It's possible that RHO could throw losers on 's and 's in 6. On most layouts where partner sets 6 on a ruff, they'll make 6NT, and LHO almost surely would take out to 6NT. But off AK he wouldn't, since partner would be on lead.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:01

Echognome, on May 21 2007, 11:39 AM, said:

I will also say club. Partner should be prepared for a non-heart lead. LHO may have been bidding 3N on a long club suit and partner may be ruffing the opening lead. Alternatively, LHO may have been bidding 3N on a long diamond suit (likely), so we don't want to lead that unless partner has the A, in which case it may be cashing anyway.

That sounds all right to me.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:07

SoTired, on May 21 2007, 12:31 PM, said:

Two rules:
1) Not a trump
2) Not our suit

yes obviously, im interested in reasons behind clubs vs diamonds.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:22

Jlall, on May 21 2007, 01:07 PM, said:

SoTired, on May 21 2007, 12:31 PM, said:

Two rules:
  1) Not a trump
  2) Not our suit

yes obviously, im interested in reasons behind clubs vs diamonds.

A club, because with five of them, it is more likely teh mice can get to your club tricks in partner hand (using diamond or hearts to throw away club losers) than they can get to diamonds (seems they may have too many diamond losers to throw them all off on clubs and hearts if you guess wrong at trick one).
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Posted 2007-May-21, 13:40

clubs.

You have clubs, and the same is true for
the NT bidder, i.e. there is a chance that
partner has a void in clubs.

Maybe he beats is on power, in which case
the lead does not destroy any, diamonds
bets on the Ace of diamond with partner.

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