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Poll: your bid (30 member(s) have cast votes)

your bid

  1. 2C (29 votes [96.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 96.67%

  2. 2D (1 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  3. 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2007-May-21, 09:36


Dealer: South
Vul: EW
Scoring: IMP
K
K53
AKJ43
Q973


West North East South

 -     -     -     1
 Pass  1    Pass  ?


Your bid and why please - or maybe you would have made a different opening?
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Posted 2007-May-21, 10:17

2 is the only option now, with the J or even the Queen I would bid it also.

opening 1NT was another option.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 10:26

Fluffy, on May 21 2007, 11:17 AM, said:

2 is the only option now, with the J or even the Queen I would bid it also.

opening 1NT was another option.

well said.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 10:41

Switch my hearts and clubs and I'd have opened 1N.

For now, its a slightly heavy 2.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 10:59

2 is the only possible bid at this point. If partner bids 2 or 2 next it's a pretty close decision as to whether or not to take another call, and either way seems ok to me.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 11:34

2? Because that's what the system tells me to do?

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Posted 2007-May-21, 11:57

Easy 2 rebid for me. Not remotely close to any other bid. I would not open this 1NT. I'd normally take another call (2NT over 2, 3 over 2), but that's close.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:17

Playing normal 2/1 GF, I rebid 2, this isn't even a problem.

However, this is a systemic fix for me when playing my full Inquiry2over1 stuff...This is because for some odd reason, I play the normal rebid of 2 has a non-standard meaning. It could be balanced 17+, or a strong diamond one suiter (one most jump rebid 3 with), or a true minor two suiter, strong. A jump to 3 shows a weak minor two suiter. For this reason (and in anticipation of this problem), I would have opened 1NT.

But here, I would be forced to rebid 2, but it is not all bad. 2 is 99.9% forcing (it denies four card spade support and a hand strong enough to open 2, etc, so I have seen a hand with lots of clubs and little value that responder choose to pass. Over 2, partner can bid 2, which can be a pretty serious false preference, or 2 which shows long suit wanting to play 2 opposite a 17-19 balanced hand, 2NT which is a transfer to 3 (with a diamond one suiter, opener bids 3 over 2NT), 3 which is a transfer to 3, and a few higher bids, but the most forward going bid is 2. Here 2 seeks more infomation, and promises more values than a 2 rebid. Over 2 I would rebid 2NT. A slight overbid, admittedly, but the fifth diamond and the good shape may make up for the fact that I am 1 hcp short for this bid.

So if partner held long spades and weak hand, like everyone else after 2 I get to 2. If partner held some weak ahnds, even with 4 and 2, I would get to 2 (he will be 5224 because with 6 he would have bid 2 when weak). If he has five clubs and a weak hand, he would bid 2NT over 2 planning on passing the 3 rebid.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:17

I bid 2.

Completely happy with the 1 opening. Starting a good hand with the bid of a good suit seems OK.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:26

2C, looking forward to the follow up question,
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:28

Why open 1NT instead of 1 since you don't have a rebid problem.
You can rebid 2

I don't see why you would open 1NT since you don't need to


Compare the hand above to this one:

Spades: K
Hearts: A x x
Diamonds: A K x x x x
Clubs: Q T x


Richard Pavlicek suggested opening this 1NT

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These also are problematic (from Richard Willeys post on RGB)

S K
H KJT4
D AQ84
C KT73


S K
H KJT3
D AQ873
C KT4


Neither of these hands has a reasonable rebid after 1D - (p) - 1S
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Posted 2007-May-21, 12:38

2 and to be honest, I can't understand why this is in Advanced and Expert class bridge (at least to this point in the problem). I think if you've opened 1, then you've prepared a 2 rebid. If you want to debate the merits of opening 1 vs opening 1NT, that is a different question (and one you've posted elsewhere). If the question is what to bid after 1 - 1 - 2 - 2/2/2NT, etc, then that is a different question as well. But for this problem, I would suspect that the expert community would be unanimous. (I write this knowing that one person chose 2, but that could have been a misclick or a monkey. Who knows?)
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Posted 2007-May-21, 13:34

2C, wtp?

I am not even max for the bid.
And no, I would not have opened 1NT.

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Posted 2007-May-21, 16:13

I would have opened 1NT, but now I bid 2.
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Posted 2007-May-21, 16:19

Agree 100% with P_Marlowe
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Posted 2007-May-21, 17:01

Ok, poor question :)

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