[lenze]

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Also Lenze's assertion that it is the "tool of a weak player" is just plain silly when you have a look at the top players who do psyche and when the do it.

I must admit that I have been out out the tournament world for over 15 years, so I may be ignorant on modern day "Experts". But I did have the chance to play against and with some of the best players ever. (Oswald Jacoby, Jim Jacoby, Barry Crane. Bob Hamman, Bobby Wolf, Dr. Fisher, Mike Passell, Curtis Smith, etc). Never once did I EVER see one these greats psyche.!!

[the hog]

With all due respect Lenze, some of the names you mention would not make my personal list of the 200 world's best ever. I am surprised you left out someone whom I am sure you would would have played against - Meyer Schleiffer, who would, I believe, make the list as a bridge player's bridge player. Perhaps this is the topic of another thread - who would you rank as the top 50 of all time?

Getting back to the topic - a player who never psyches leaves himself too open. Your bids need to be tinged with an air of doubt!

[lenze]

Just curious!. Who, on my list, would you exclude from the top 200?

BTW; To my knowledge, I never had the privilage to play against Meyer Schleiffer

[inquiry]

I certainly don't want to get into a ranking top 200 players of all times, and so I wouldn't want to propose anyone names. However, since Ron suggested NONE on Lenze's list would make the top 200, I just have to take some exceptions to that.

Barry arguably was THE BEST matchpoint player of all time. I think his record given his many different partners and playing while holding down a full time job is unparrallel.

Oswald was clearly among the very best players of his era, and come on, Bob H has to be on everyones top 200 of all time list.

Ben

[irdoz]

TheHog (Ron)
"With all due respect Lenze, some of the names you mention would not make my personal list of the 200 world's best ever."

Inquiry
"However, since Ron suggested NONE on Lenze's list would make the top 200"

Hmmm.

[inquiry]

whoops... I read ron's reply as NONE, not some.... my bad....

Clearly some on that list would not be in my top 1000.... hehehe. This tiny little font is hard to read

Ben

[lenze]

Jlall wrote

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PS. Are you texan? just curious

Yes, I played bridge in Texas for many years before moiving to Montana in 1994.

You wouldn't happen to be related to Hemant, my old friend and occasional partner from 25 years ago, would you?

[lenze]

Jlall, on Jan 15 2004, 11:19 PM, said:

lenze, on Jan 15 2004, 05:10 PM, said:

You wouldn't happen to be related to Hemant, my old friend and occasional partner from 25 years ago, would you?

indeed, hes my father you'll know he psyches sometimes too......hahaha

Indeed he does. I can remember more than one protest back in the 1970's

[Gerben47]

Of course no one ever saw Zia psych.

Normal players psych, Zia makes eccentric bids.