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Squeeze Tourney FYI

#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2007-May-10, 14:39

Hi all

I have been given 10 Squeeze hands by an expert and I just have to change the seating so they are not all North south, I will run the tourney next week if anyone is interested in it.

I would like some idea what you think I should do, i.e

Should I leave it at two hands for 16 mins or 1 hand for 10 mins then hands change as some are quite difficult I am reliably informed

just let me know if you are interested
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Posted 2007-May-10, 15:12

I've seen a lot of attempts to engineer "theme" tournaments and don't think that they work particularly well. Either the bidding or the defense goes wrong and all your efforts are in vein.

I think that it would be a lot more useful to create LIN files using the hands...
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Posted 2007-May-10, 16:15

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I've seen a lot of attempts to engineer "theme" tournaments and don't think that they work particularly well. Either the bidding or the defense goes wrong and all your efforts are in vein.


Doesn't that just make you want to slit your wrists?

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Posted 2007-May-10, 17:26

Maybe your best bet is to make 1 board rounds and 'direct' some of the bidding. Then it becomes more of a par contest. Just make sure to rotate dummy around as well as sitting there as dummy the entire time isn't exactly exciting.

I don't think this would work well for a public tournament, but rather one with all friends. Then at the start of each round you can announce any instructions in the bidding. The other good point about having friends is that they would both be more willing to help you experiment with this type of tourney and also not complain as much if it doesn't work out too well. (and hopefully compliment you on your efforts regardless)

Another alternative is to run it through the Int-Adv club and make it a tourney with a discussion of the boards afterwards. That way if the bidding doesn't go as planned, a moderator could still go through the boards afterwards suggesting the bidding and play of the hand.
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Posted 2007-May-10, 18:43

For this to work, you have to 1) specify the contract, 2) specify the side playing the contract, and 3) probably specify the opening lead or even the first two or three tricks. So I think it will not be as great as you think.

A better way is to hold teaching tables, where you or someone can control the bidding and the necessary defensive approach. This uses up a lot of your time, however.
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Posted 2007-May-11, 00:38

So every hand is a squeeze? Here are the problems with such a tourney:
1) No consideration about whether just taking the finesse is a better line (or something other than a squeeze)
2) No problem trying to figure out the defenders hands. Since every hand is a successful squeeze, declarer KNOWS what the defensive layout must be
3) Don't even have to count out the hand.
4) And the defense can't break it up? So the defense's sole purpose is to follow suit and not make a mistake. How thrilling for them.

Par contests died because of the contrived nature of the hands and the pre-knowledge that each hand had a "problem". This tourney would be far worse.
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Posted 2007-May-11, 01:30

If you take the C.Love book you'll see that there are some trap hands that say "Don't play for a squeeze here, instead keep thinking :)"

Also his squeeze hands are normally clear.
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