[Trpltrbl]

J9842 All Vul, IMP's
xx
x
KQ876

1 - 1- P - P
X - P - r bid

Mike

[Free]

VULNERABILITY!!!

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Free, on Jan 10 2004, 02:30 PM, said:

VULNERABILITY!!!

When not told it is always equal.

Mike

[EricK]

There might be something wrong with my browser (Firebird 0.7), but the bidding sequence you have posted doesn't show any suits.

Eric

[Free]

Trpltrbl, on Jan 11 2004, 04:41 AM, said:

Free, on Jan 10 2004, 02:30 PM, said:

VULNERABILITY!!!

When not told it is always equal.

Mike

"Equal" doesn't say enough, there's a difference between V-V and NV-NV

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EricK, on Jan 10 2004, 02:46 PM, said:

There might be something wrong with my browser (Firebird 0.7), but the bidding sequence you have posted doesn't show any suits.

Eric

I am not familar with the firebird browser, so I will give the auction like this.

1 H - 1 SP - p - p - X - p - r bid

Mike

[Free]

Anyway, if you don't bid 2S with that hand, you get such problems which aren't real problems. Pass. If partner is short in S, he'll RDbl when V, and pass when NV...

[paulg]

As well as showing the vulnerability, the scoring is just as important (MPs or IMPs). Better formatting on the auction may have prevented Free's apparent misreading of the problem :-)

However I don't think I'm really strong enough to pass, and don't expect to get rich as they probably have a 7-card fit.

So 2C is sufficient for me.

[inquiry]

1st,,, I assume imps,
2nd, not sure if I followed the bidding, so I am entering what I think the bidding is....

Pard...RHO...ME.... LHO
1H.....1S......Pass....Pass
DBL...Pass....?

I am not going to pass. My spades are not good enough. I am not going to to bid 2H despite my stiff diamond and two card heart support (partner will know I don't have 3 because I generally raise with 3 over the dbl). So I am going to bid my club suit. If we can make 5clubs, partner will bid again over 2C. If partner pulls 2C to 2D, I will bid 2H. If partner shows club support and values over 2C, I will make a game try.


Ben

[Free]

This is the exact reason why we play 1X - (intervention) - 2Y (Y lower than X) as Non Forcing. If you pass in first instance, pass again. Otherwise you show stronger hand which hasn't got a Dbl... So still Pass

And yes, because of the bad format I aparently misread the auction...

Free

[luke warm]

inquiry, on Jan 10 2004, 10:39 PM, said:

I am not going to pass. My spades are not good enough. I am not going to to bid 2H despite my stiff diamond and two card heart support (partner will know I don't have 3 because I generally raise with 3 over the dbl). So I am going to bid my club suit. If we can make 5clubs, partner will bid again over 2C. If partner pulls 2C to 2D, I will bid 2H. If partner shows club support and values over 2C, I will make a game try.


Ben

i agree with ben, except if partner bids 3c over my 2c i think i pass.. i know that might be losing action, we might have a club game, but it seems right to me.. if he bids 2s, of course, i bid 4c

[the hog]

2C. Whats the problem. Surely you don't expect me to pass?

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The_Hog, on Jan 13 2004, 06:15 PM, said:

2C. Whats the problem. Surely you don't expect me to pass?

You can do anything you want but on this hand passing, if you can defend correctly which I think you can, works out very good. Bidding 2 which I disagree with, will not. If you bid 3 you will get to game, but that hasn't made yet either.

Mike

[Trpltrbl]

Pd's hand
Q
AKQ10x
AKxx
109x

As you can see 1 X-ed will not get many tricks. Declarer had 5-3-2-3 hand, and we got it down 3 for 800, looks like 1100 is even possible, even though I don't spend much time on hands like this. 5 makes if you guess some stuff right.

Mike

P.S. if somebody finds a way to get it 1100 let me know