[jdeegan]

Dear Winston,

Delightful to be able to enter into this distinguished forum you have sponsored. Perhaps, I can summarize.

Over a 1♥ or 1♠ opening the preferred method is always for a 2 level reverse to show extras - a king or better. This also works well over 1♦-P-2♣-P , although you may occasionally have to rebid 2NT with 4-4-4-1 shape and a minimum. You keep the bidding lower with the slightly better hand, a hand which is hard to show any other way.

Slams with 15-17 HCP opposite 14-17 HCP plus a little distribution can be hard to bid sometimes because neither partner appreciates the full potential of the combined hands. Overcoming this as best one can is the reason to play 2/1 in the first place.

[Fluffy]

jdeegan, on May 24 2007, 05:28 AM, said:

Over a 1♥ or 1♠ opening the preferred method is always for a 2 level reverse to show extras

In My Holy Opinion, reverses at the 2 level after 1♠ opening should be played as roughly 3 to 24, the reasons behind this treatment are unkown to the common people and it is my task to hide them so you can never see them.

[bid_em_up]

Fluffy, on May 24 2007, 09:24 AM, said:

In My Holy Opinion, reverses at the 2 level after 1♠ opening should be played as roughly 3 to 24,

Close, but I think what you really meant to say is:

In My Holey Opinion, reverses at the 2 level after 1♠ opening should be played as roughly 3 to 24.

We'll excuse it since we know English is not your native language.

[Winstonm]

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We'll excuse it since we know English is not your native language

What is his native language - idiot jibberish?

[Winstonm]

jdeegan, on May 24 2007, 12:28 AM, said:

Dear Winston,

Delightful to be able to enter into this distinguished forum you have sponsored.  Perhaps, I can summarize. 

Over a 1♥ or 1♠ opening the preferred method is always for a 2 level reverse to show extras - a king or better.  This also works well over 1♦-P-2♣-P , although you may occasionally have to rebid 2NT with 4-4-4-1 shape and a minimum. You keep the bidding lower with the slightly better hand, a hand which is hard to show any other way.

Slams with 15-17 HCP opposite 14-17 HCP plus a little distribution can be hard to bid sometimes because neither partner appreciates the full potential of the combined hands. Overcoming this as best one can is the reason to play 2/1 in the first place.

Niceties will not prevent getting slammed for the arrogance of proclaiming "all bridge knowledge" in your post. Obviously, the point in reversing is to force partner to bid again, but since he is going to do that already why waste room with an ignorant rebid on a 5-card suit if you are lucky (don't even get me started on the 4441 hand.)

And to anyone who says reverse should not show extra, I'd say to them I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them - I'd point out the error of their ways but they'd be too dimwitted to understand it so why bother.

[helene_t]

Winstonm, on May 20 2007, 04:16 PM, said:

No, the point of this thread was to insult morons who think they know what is the point of this thread. You want an optimal agreement thread, go start your own.

Oops, apparently I'm one of those morons. I must admit I thought the thread's purpose was to make those who take the thread serious feel stupid.

[han]

helene_t, on May 25 2007, 12:49 AM, said:

Oops, apparently I'm one of those morons.

What else is new?

[Fluffy]

bid_em_up, on May 24 2007, 07:03 PM, said:

We'll excuse it since we know English is not your native language. 

Accepting excuses is a symptom of weakness, there is no room in this post for the weak!

PD: I had to find symptom on google

[Winstonm]

helene_t, on May 25 2007, 12:49 AM, said:

Winstonm, on May 20 2007, 04:16 PM, said:

No, the point of this thread was to insult morons who think they know what is the point of this thread.    You want an optimal agreement thread, go start your own. 

Oops, apparently I'm one of those morons. I must admit I thought the thread's purpose was to make those who take the thread serious feel stupid.

There you go thinking again and getting in trouble - just toss your red hair and smile a lot - you'll get better results.

[jdeegan]

Winstonm, on May 24 2007, 08:12 PM, said:

jdeegan, on May 24 2007, 12:28 AM, said:

Dear Winston,

Delightful to be able to enter into this distinguished forum you have sponsored.  Perhaps, I can summarize. 

Over a 1♥ or 1♠ opening the preferred method is always for a 2 level reverse to show extras - a king or better.  This also works well over 1♦-P-2♣-P , although you may occasionally have to rebid 2NT with 4-4-4-1 shape and a minimum. You keep the bidding lower with the slightly better hand, a hand which is hard to show any other way.

Slams with 15-17 HCP opposite 14-17 HCP plus a little distribution can be hard to bid sometimes because neither partner appreciates the full potential of the combined hands. Overcoming this as best one can is the reason to play 2/1 in the first place.

Niceties will not prevent getting slammed for the arrogance of proclaiming "all bridge knowledge" in your post. Obviously, the point in reversing is to force partner to bid again, but since he is going to do that already why waste room with an ignorant rebid on a 5-card suit if you are lucky (don't even get me started on the 4441 hand.)

And to anyone who says reverse should not show extra, I'd say to them I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them - I'd point out the error of their ways but they'd be too dimwitted to understand it so why bother.

You would be arrogant too - if you were me. Actually, I am only summarizing Mike Lawrence. When it comes to 2/1, Mike is, pretty much, "all bridge knowledge".

[han]

Agree that Mike Lawrence has had tremendous success as a player and his writing the subject is great. However, as far as I know he quit high level bridge and the game has moved on.

[pbleighton]

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Agree that Mike Lawrence has had tremendous success as a player and his writing the subject is great. However, as far as I know he quit high level bridge and the game has moved on.

And he's been replaced by ... Hannie.

Peter

[han]

As long as you know it.