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#1 User is offline   ruotal 

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Posted 2007-May-17, 06:58

Hi all !
Auctions :
1♥   X   1♠  P
2♥  3♣  ?
My hand : ♠ AJ8652 ♥ 82 ♦ K6 ♣ KQ7
Since i will pass with a poor hand, is it forcing if I bid 3♠ ? In fact I bid 3♠ and my partner pass. I made 3 but 4♥ was there.
My partner has : ♠Q ♥AK10976 ♦Q542 ♣J2

The take out X by opps revealed he has at least 4♠ but should I look for a better fit in ♠ than ♥ ?

Should I bid 4♥ and dont reveal i have long ♠ ?

Is it possible to find a chart or something showing what is forcing or not ?

Thank you.

andré
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Posted 2007-May-17, 07:20

I wouldn't take 3♠ as forcing, unless I were playing

1♥ (dbl) 2♠

as preemptive.

That being said, I think I would dbl 3♣ :lol: A 4♥ bid after 3♣ is also good. Pard has 6 hearts, so there should be no problem with it.
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Posted 2007-May-17, 07:36

Your RHO should promise a big hand with 6+ clubs and at least 8 playing tricks.

You should X him, which should really be for penalties. I don't think 3♠ is forcing, it should show a competitive hand (~10 pts, 6+spades). With a better hand than that you can double for penalties or bid 4♣ (promising at least a doubleton ♥) or 3NT or 4♠.

It would help to know the vulnerability, however.
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Posted 2007-May-17, 09:23

I'll take the rare chance to agree with whereagles, double away! If partner passes it's juicy, if partner pulls you can just bid 4♥, easy.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2007-May-17, 10:21

jdonn, on May 17 2007, 05:23 PM, said:

I'll take the rare chance to agree with whereagles, double away! If partner passes it's juicy, if partner pulls you can just bid 4♥, easy.

Me too. :lol:
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  Posted 2007-May-18, 05:41

3s is not forcing i will bid 3h as pd has shown 6 cards h. :P
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Posted 2007-May-18, 07:07

Last night, in a competitive auction, the opponents reached 5H. I held the AK of hearts and two side suit aces. I doubled. I got my AK of hearts. Minus 650.


Perhaps it is right here to double but looking only at your hand, not at your partner's, I would be a little wary. As to bidding on, you have a known eight card heart fit, you have good values reasonably placed. As mentioned, vulnerability and form of scoring matters, as does your opinion of your rho, but I might try 4H. Or yes, I might double. I don't think 3S is forcing. Give partner a typical 1H opening and 2H rebid, and his question must be "Forced to do what?". Show again what he has already shown? Best to take the bull by the horns and double for penalties or bid the game you think best. I can't say I am sure which I would do.
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Posted 2007-May-18, 07:14

mhais, on May 18 2007, 06:41 AM, said:

3s is not forcing i will bid 3h as pd has shown 6 cards h. :P

Agree 3s is not forcing, but the same is
true for 3H.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2007-May-18, 07:16

Hi,

3NT, I would not have though about hitting 3C,
great idea, but I would not have found it.

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