[Fluffy]

Gerben42, on May 4 2007, 11:37 AM, said:

If you voted either of those, go stand in the corner please.

*cries* Mom, can I come back yet? *cries again*

[Apollo81]

To me, this is close between 2♠, 3♣, and 4♦. I don't understand any of the other choices.

[jtfanclub]

Hannie, on May 4 2007, 06:48 PM, said:

2S for me. I don't want to bid 2C, it takes up too little room.

I'm surprised nobody has made an argument for playing 2S as natural.

Is 2♣ being a cue bid (not a natural club suit) Standard? I get confused.

Did 1♠ promise 4 or 5? If it promises 4, I'm awfully tempted to bid 3♣ and see what happens (what does an X of 3♣ show, anyways? Spades? Clubs? Points?)...but then, I'm not an expert either.

[pclayton]

mikeh, on May 4 2007, 03:37 PM, said:

pclayton, on May 4 2007, 03:56 PM, said:

mikeh, on May 4 2007, 11:56 AM, said:

It is partner's shape that is critical if they get to 4♠. I do not want to show ♥s (unless also promising lonnnnng ♦s) and face a decision over 4♠, feeling I should consider saving due to my undisclosed support.

Isn't this the best reason for a fit jump?

I'm not tempted to go to 5♦ if pard doesn't fit hearts. If we have a double fit however, 5♦ rates to be very cheap.

My biggest fear is that our hands are mirrored.

We may play fit-jumps differently: for me, the fit jump would deliver at least 5♥s along with long ♦s: I do not want to be in a 4-3 fit in 4♥ and I do not want to be in a 4-4 ♥ fit, saving against 4♠, when we have a 5-5 ♦ fit! Remember that it is partner who will be taking the save decision and he won't worry about an inadequate ♥ fit if he holds 4 of them (if you show 5, as I would via a jump)

If my pard is playing me for 5♥ / 4♦, why would he automatically take preference to hearts with 4? Is there a strategic reason for diving in hearts instead of diamonds?

Even then, the 4-4 may play fine, altough a diamond ruff becomes a possibility.

We aren't buying this hand in 4♥ under any circumstances, so I'm not concerned about the prospects of a 4-3 fit.

[cherdano]

This hand is from the bidding panel in the German bridge magazine. I don't know the full results nor the comments, but double was the panel's majority vote.
Personally I hate double. I admit it might turn out well in an auction like X (2S) 3H (4S) assuming this helps us to bid 5♦, but if it goes instead X (2S) P (4S) or X (3S) P (4S) I have no idea what to do (partner knows about the heart fit, I know about the diamond fit - great!)

[cherdano]

pclayton, on May 7 2007, 10:32 AM, said:

mikeh, on May 4 2007, 03:37 PM, said:

pclayton, on May 4 2007, 03:56 PM, said:

mikeh, on May 4 2007, 11:56 AM, said:

It is partner's shape that is critical if they get to 4♠. I do not want to show ♥s (unless also promising lonnnnng ♦s) and face a decision over 4♠, feeling I should consider saving due to my undisclosed support.

Isn't this the best reason for a fit jump?

I'm not tempted to go to 5♦ if pard doesn't fit hearts. If we have a double fit however, 5♦ rates to be very cheap.

My biggest fear is that our hands are mirrored.

We may play fit-jumps differently: for me, the fit jump would deliver at least 5♥s along with long ♦s: I do not want to be in a 4-3 fit in 4♥ and I do not want to be in a 4-4 ♥ fit, saving against 4♠, when we have a 5-5 ♦ fit! Remember that it is partner who will be taking the save decision and he won't worry about an inadequate ♥ fit if he holds 4 of them (if you show 5, as I would via a jump)

If my pard is playing me for 5♥ / 4♦, why would he automatically take preference to hearts with 4? Is there a strategic reason for diving in hearts instead of diamonds?

Even then, the 4-4 may play fine, altough a diamond ruff becomes a possibility.

We aren't buying this hand in 4♥ under any circumstances, so I'm not concerned about the prospects of a 4-3 fit.

The strategic reason is obvious if this is at the 4-level, and lies in "at least 5 hearts" at the 5-level. I think 3♥ is possibly 6=3 but never 4=5 in the red suits, so with 4 hearts partner will always bid 5♥ not 5♦.