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bidding problem advancing 4S overcall

#1 User is offline   eamongall 

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Posted 2007-May-01, 08:06

The following hand occured at our recent national team championship's and I wonder if you would be good enough to ask the bidding panelists their views on what they might bid.

N/S Vul
N Dealer

N E S W
1H 4S P ?

You as West hold

S T98
H void
D AQJ32
C AJT76



Do you bid on? And if so, what do you bid?

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Posted 2007-May-01, 08:07

Pass for me
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Posted 2007-May-01, 08:18

A competent LHO rates to bid 5♥ if I pass, so I will bid 5♠ now and hope he doubles instead. People tend to always think you are sacrificing if you bid like this at favorable.

I think the odds heavily favor 5♠ making and are slightly against 6♠ making.
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Posted 2007-May-01, 08:51

Apollo81, on May 1 2007, 04:18 PM, said:

A competent LHO rates to bid 5♥ if I pass, so I will bid 5♠ now and hope he doubles instead. People tend to always think you are sacrificing if you bid like this at favorable.

I think the odds heavily favor 5♠ making and are slightly against 6♠ making.

Either a tactical 5♠ or 5♥ - a strong raise.
Depending on who I'm playing with and against.
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Posted 2007-May-01, 09:04

I'll cut partner some slack here since he's white/red. I see no reason to think LHO is going to bid 5H. He's red/white and doesn't have much (since I have everything).
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Posted 2007-May-01, 09:11

Apollo81, on May 1 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

I think the odds heavily favor 5♠ making and are slightly against 6♠ making.

I think 5♠ rates to be cold, and 6♠ is heavily favored.

My heart void, and the lack of a 5H bid by RHO tends to indicate that partner has three or 4 hearts along with his 6-8 spades. This doesnt leave him with many minor suit cards, and any minor suit losers go away on the diamonds after a non-club lead.

If I just bid 6S directly, the odds are against RHO finding the club lead, but if I try cuebidding 5H (to show the control/void) or 5D to show the suit, I think I improve their chances to find the club lead.

I'll bid 6♠ and pray that we don't have two trump losers. Who knows, they may even decide to sac in 7H. :)
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2007-May-01, 09:44

I'll pass. AKQxxxxx, xxx, x, x is just too much to wish for. KQJxxxx, xxx, xx, x is more the norm at these colors.

We might have some handling problems if dummy gets tapped at T1, and pard doesn't have solid spades.

If LHO tries 5♥, I'll take the push to 5♠.
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Posted 2007-May-01, 10:36

My first feeling was to bid 6, so that's what I do ^^
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Posted 2007-May-01, 11:12

pass, ...

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Posted 2007-May-01, 11:56

I guess 5♥ is fine, I don't like the 'tactical' 5♠ since like Justin says they are so weak they won't be doing anything anyway, and 6 is clearly an overbid.
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Posted 2007-May-01, 18:47

5♣ for me, I might try for 7 if partner cues.
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