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heavy 2-suiter

Poll: Now what? (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Now what?

  1. 4C (natural, not a 2-suiter!) (6 votes [27.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  2. 4H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 4NT (5 votes [22.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  4. 5C (9 votes [40.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.91%

  5. 5NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Other (not 4C to show a 2-suiter!) (2 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

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#1 User is offline   Free 

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Posted 2007-April-30, 02:59

You hold:
Scoring: MP

(note that it's MP, we're unfavorable)

The auction starts:
1♦ - pass - 3♦ - ???

(opps play a very standard system, so opener shows 4+♦, and responder should show 10-11hcp and 4+♦)

You don't have any agreements about 4♣ being a 2-suiter, so it's natural for sure. What do you bid? And what's your plan later on?
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Posted 2007-April-30, 03:29

I think I'd bid 4NT but that is bad if 4♥ is the spot. X is second choice, which will work suboptimally over pd's 4♠ bid.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 03:50

I'd bid 3♥ and follow-up with 5♣ if given that chance.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 05:10

5C, at least I will play game.
Over 5D I can still bid 5H, if given
the chance.

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Posted 2007-April-30, 05:35

You didn't specify what 3D was.

If preemptive, 5C. If invitational, 4C.

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Posted 2007-April-30, 11:29

4♣. This will work really well in three cases.

1. one of the opponents bids 4♦ and it comes back to me
2. the hand is badly misfit (for instance if partner has 5152 shape)
3. the opponents double me (we are RED at MPs)
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Posted 2007-April-30, 11:47

Double for me.

I'm not all that upset about converting 4♠ to 5♣.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 12:02

Nice Frederick.

You had to make this MPs, so hearts becomes an attractive strain.

You had to make us at adverse, so -500 against -400 becomes a real worry.

I'll start with 5♣. If I catch pard with some heart fillers, that just makes 5♣ easier to handle.

Over the expected 5♦, I'll take the bait and bid 5♥. Considering the ♥Q and a little length and nothing else gives me a good play, I can't see selling out to 5♦, even though it could be a riduculous contract.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 15:22

If 5♣ is a good bid, why isn't 4NT better? It has to be UNT.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 15:30

Pedestrian 5C for me. I don't see any reason to think any other bid I make will not end the auction.
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Posted 2007-April-30, 15:31

gwnn, on Apr 30 2007, 04:22 PM, said:

If 5♣ is a good bid, why isn't 4NT better? It has to be UNT.

because one of your suits is 7 solid and the other is KJxxx... why would you want to play 5H and not 5C?
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