[jocdelevat]

Scoring: IMP

♠	K97
♥	AQJ5
♦	J42
♣	AQ8

West North East South

 -     -     2♠    2NT
 Pass  3♣    Pass  Pass
 Pass  

Hi all

It happens to me often in the last days to have a hand like this and my pard didn't understand my bid or how to continue. The really thing is I don't know what means 2nt in direct seat after a openning weak 2. Some of my pickup partners took it as unsual2nt and some told me to double because I have 4 hearts like in this exemple.
Here i do not know what to bid after 3c and im not sure 2nt. my pard says to double for take out with this hand because I have 4hearts. Anyhow I think his bid 3c was wrong.
This was my pard hand:
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Dealer: West Vul: None Scoring: IMP Thank you in advance for your advice It's not what you are, it's how you say it! best regards jocdelevat 0 Back to top of the page up there ^ #2   whereagles  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 14,900 Joined: 2004-May-11 Gender:Male Location:Portugal Interests:Everything! Posted 2007-April-28, 01:42 Over a weak 2, a 2NT overcall is usually natural, in the 15-18 range or thereabouts. Most players respond to it as "system on" (3♣ stay, 3♦ transf, etc). Of course, you can play 2NT as unusual but anyone claiming that's the standard meaning didn't bother to read much or think much. 0 Back to top of the page up there ^ #3   P_Marlowe  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 11,095 Joined: 2005-March-18 Gender:Male Posted 2007-April-28, 02:08 Hi, standard meaning: 2NT natural (strong NT, point range may slighlty differ), after 2NT system on, i.e. 3C i stayman and hence the bid made by your partner was fine, ... maybe by accident With kind regards Marlowe With kind regards Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe) 0 Back to top of the page up there ^ #4   jchiu  Group: Full Members Posts: 284 Joined: 2003-May-10 Posted 2007-April-28, 11:30 A direct 2NT overcall is a strong notrump, essentially 16 to 18 HCP with a full stopper in their suit. Occasionally one could stretch to overcall 2NT with a prime 15-count where the stopper is enhanced by the likely favourable placement of honours in the weak two suit (e.g. KJx or AQx). I have never met anyone who thinks this overcall is unusual. Over a direct 2NT overcall, 3♣ is stayman. Respond to it as if you are responding to stayman over a 1NT opening or overcall, but do not reveal that you hold four cards in the major opened at your right. The hand shown above is a textbook example of a 2NT overcall. Doubling on that hand makes me sick. The advancer hand shown above should probably bid stayman to inquire about a 4-4 heart fit. Until you have enough experience to determine when it is not a good idea to bid stayman here (e.g. Qx, J10x in spades), it is the recommended course. Overcaller should bid 3♥ and be raised to 4♥ by his partner. As it turns out, it is likely that both 3NT and 4♥ have ten tricks. 0 Back to top of the page up there ^ Forum Home Bridge-Related Discussion (not BBO-related)   |-- General Bridge Discussion (not BBO-specific)   |-- Interesting Bridge Hands   |-- Intermediate and Advanced Bridge Discussion   |-- Expert-Class Bridge   |-- Novice and Beginner Forum   |-- Natural Bidding Discussion   |-- Non-Natural System Discussion   |-- Bridge Material Review   |-- Youth Bridge   |-- BBO Juniors   |-- BPO - Bridge Poll Online   |-- Offline Bridge Bridge Base Online Discussion   |-- BBO Announcements and Special Events   |-- General BBO Discussion   |-- BBO Forum Events   |-- Suggestions for the Software   |-- BBO Support Forum   |-- Find a Partner/Teacher!   |-- BBO Tournaments Discussion   |-- BBO Tournament Directors Forum   |-- Vugraph issues   |-- Dealer Scripts   |-- BBO Robot Discussion International Forum   |-- 华人论坛   |-- 华娱世界   |-- Il forum per bridgisti italiani-   |-- Forum pro ceske a slovenske bridzisty   |-- Hungarian Forum   |-- Spanish Forum   |-- Türk oyuncular için Forum   |-- German Forum   |-- Ceske bridzove forum   |-- Dutch Forum   |-- French Forum Off-Topic   |-- The Water Cooler International Bridge Laws Forum (IBLF)   |-- Laws and Rulings   |-- Simple Rulings   |-- Appeals and Appeals Committees   |-- Changing Laws & Regulations ← Previous Topic Intermediate and Advanced Bridge Discussion Next Topic → Page 1 of 1 You cannot start a new topic You cannot reply to this topic 1 User(s) are reading this topic 0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users Delete Post Remove From View The post may still be visible to moderators in this topic Reason: Delete From Topic The post will be removed from this topic completely Skin and Language Language: English (USA) Execution Stats Time Now: 2026-Sep-14, 13:02 Back To Top Forum Home Delete My Cookies Mark Board As Read Community Forum Software by IP.Board 3.1.4

[whereagles]

Over a weak 2, a 2NT overcall is usually natural, in the 15-18 range or thereabouts. Most players respond to it as "system on" (3♣ stay, 3♦ transf, etc).

Of course, you can play 2NT as unusual but anyone claiming that's the standard meaning didn't bother to read much or think much.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

standard meaning: 2NT natural (strong NT, point range may
slighlty differ), after 2NT system on, i.e. 3C i stayman and
hence the bid made by your partner was fine, ... maybe by
accident

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jchiu]

A direct 2NT overcall is a strong notrump, essentially 16 to 18 HCP with a full stopper in their suit. Occasionally one could stretch to overcall 2NT with a prime 15-count where the stopper is enhanced by the likely favourable placement of honours in the weak two suit (e.g. KJx or AQx). I have never met anyone who thinks this overcall is unusual.

Over a direct 2NT overcall, 3♣ is stayman. Respond to it as if you are responding to stayman over a 1NT opening or overcall, but do not reveal that you hold four cards in the major opened at your right.

The hand shown above is a textbook example of a 2NT overcall. Doubling on that hand makes me sick. The advancer hand shown above should probably bid stayman to inquire about a 4-4 heart fit. Until you have enough experience to determine when it is not a good idea to bid stayman here (e.g. Qx, J10x in spades), it is the recommended course. Overcaller should bid 3♥ and be raised to 4♥ by his partner. As it turns out, it is likely that both 3NT and 4♥ have ten tricks.