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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2007-April-25, 17:15

Scoring: IMP


3C 3S 5C ?

What do you try? You have the options of double, 5S, 6S, or other.
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Posted 2007-April-25, 17:27

6S. I think they have a 10 card fit.

If they don't, I think pd has the ace or a scoring king B)

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Posted 2007-April-25, 19:54

Put me down for 6S. (Playing extended weasel, I would hesitate and then bid 5S.)
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Posted 2007-April-26, 01:13

I will vote for 5. I would not be the slightest bid surprised to see 6 make, but I will stay fixed. I always (try to) lean toward not hanging partner for taking a chance if it's close. And even if partner doesn't have two clubs (he could, by the way. the opponents don't always bid the way you or I might think they should) we aren't out of the woods.

AKxxxx Jxx QJx x
AKxxxxx Kxx xx x
AKxxxx Qxx Jxxx -
AT9xxx KQJ QJx x

and so on.
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Posted 2007-April-26, 01:46

It would be quite useful to play pass as forcing here...

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Posted 2007-April-26, 01:50

Another option would be to play
5D / 5H as some kind of slam try.

I doubt, that the loss of a natural
5D / 5H is that great.

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Posted 2007-April-26, 04:19

Another vote for "stay fixed": 5.
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Posted 2007-April-26, 05:32

6
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Posted 2007-April-26, 05:37

It would help to know of partner's overcalling style. He might well have streched to come in with his stiff club.

Still I wouldn't be very glad to see he came in with

KT9xxx KQx QJx K

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Posted 2007-April-26, 06:12

This should be a +11/-11 IMP loss, and i think, 6 will be make more than in 50% percent of cases. I don't see any mechanism to control that (5 will just show hearts, and pass is non-forcing). So i'll take my above average chance and shoot 6
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Posted 2007-April-26, 06:27

With my requirements to bid 3 this hand is closer to 7 than pass, still it i hard to see 13 tricks, so 6 will have to be enough.
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Posted 2007-April-26, 08:35

6. Its a 30 point deck, so we have 0-4 points missing. Slam may be unplayable, or it may be cold, but it probably requires a little work; like a red suit squeeze against RHO; or pard working out to finesse my red 10.

If pass was forcing (I believe the current rules are that a non-passed hand raise of a preempt doesn't create a force), then I'd make it and pull to 5 which should be very invitational.
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Posted 2007-April-27, 13:55

Well, LHO had AKxxxx and RHO had xxx. Partner's Q of clubs false card at trick 1 unfortunately didn't pay off.


Partner held:

AKxxxx
Qxx
Qx
Qx
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Posted 2007-April-27, 13:59

I am quite loose when it comes to overalling over a preempt, and yet your partner's hand doesn't quite look like an overcall to me.
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Posted 2007-April-27, 15:23

That's funny. It looks like a 200% obvious overcall to me :)
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Posted 2007-April-27, 15:24

Had already decide 5S, thinking double may be better, never six spades - just Bridge magazine.

I would bid 3S every time with your partner's hand.
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Posted 2007-April-27, 15:36

I think the problem is the 3 bid.
On one hand you have a real nice suit and 13 HCPs.
On the other hand, your side suits queens do not look too good,
and Akxxxx, Qxx,xx,xx is not that much of an overcall.

I had overcalled with this hand each sunday but pass it saturday, so for me this is far from 200 % correct.

I would still defeat my 6 Spade bid. I had no way to invite pd and I still believe that this is the percentage action.
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Posted 2007-April-28, 09:06

I leave 11 working bal hands for partner to reopen. SAKxxxx HQxx DQx CQx IS left to partner's reopen.
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