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#1 User is offline   mikeh 

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Posted 2007-April-16, 13:54

Firstly, the play problem, against competent opps at mps.

The auction, with no-one vul., is 3 by dealer on your left, double by partner, 4 on your right and your 4 ends the auction. The lead is the K and dummy hits with 1085 Ax AJ9 AJ98x

You hold QJ732 x Kxxx Kxx

You win the A and play a trump to your Q, only to see LHO show out, with a small pitch. Plan the play... be very specific.... but I will help you a tad: if and when you play on s, LHO shows with Qx.



Next, the oddity:

Playing the finals of a Regional KO against competent opps (Mike Passell at your table, with client, and Eddie Wold at the other) you hear an unusual auction of 1 by Passell on your left and 6N by the client on your right. You have to make a lead from xx 10xxx xx KJxxx.

Now, given the hand as a problem, I suspect that many of us would find the right lead just because it IS given as a problem. However, I suspect that very few would find the right lead at the table: while if the opps were in 3N, you'd just lead a and pray. Well, of course, my partner led a and my only working card was the Axx.... they got to a (realistically speaking) unbeatable 6N when stopping in 3N would have led to down 1.

The good news is that our teammate psyched a 2 response to the same anemic 1 opener and that persuaded the opps to lead a major against 6.

The bad news is that we lost the match by 11. However, for 3 married couples to stay close was very enjoyable :)
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Posted 2007-April-16, 19:57

It seems natural to start the clubs, so K and a club. We now know a lot about West's hand, and the only problem is to determine whether he has 4 or 5 diamonds. Now West is a competent player, and therefore must have spent some time reading the BBO forums. If he has retained even a fraction of the knowledge here, he cannot possibly be 7-4 for his 3 opening. So he is 0=6=5=2, and it is now a pretty straightforward double-dummy problem. If he has psyched with a 0=7=4=2, to protect the Q that he may or may not hold, well that was very cunning of him.
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Posted 2007-April-16, 23:02

temp3600, on Apr 17 2007, 03:57 AM, said:

It seems natural to start the clubs, so K and a club. We now know a lot about West's hand, and the only problem is to determine whether he has 4 or 5 diamonds. Now West is a competent player, and therefore must have spent some time reading the BBO forums. If he has retained even a fraction of the knowledge here, he cannot possibly be 7-4 for his 3 opening. So he is 0=6=5=2, and it is now a pretty straightforward double-dummy problem. If he has psyched with a 0=7=4=2, to protect the Q that he may or may not hold, well that was very cunning of him.

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Posted 2007-April-18, 13:34

How about - play King and Ace of clubs - once the q of clubs shows up ruff a heart, cash the diamond K and then get back with a club and continue clubs - pitching a diamond if/when RHO ruffs. RHO is then end played to play a heart or a second diamond (or a spade). If it is a heart - pitch a diamond from hand, ruff on the board and play the last club - if RHO ruffs low overruff and play a diamond (RHO has only AK of spades left so it is ok to have that trick ruffed). if RHO ruffs high pitch another diamond. I think that works.
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Posted 2007-April-18, 14:13

Mosene, on Apr 18 2007, 02:34 PM, said:

How about - play King and Ace of clubs - once the q of clubs shows up ruff a heart, cash the diamond K and then get back with a club and continue clubs - pitching a diamond if/when RHO ruffs. RHO is then end played to play a heart or a second diamond (or a spade). If it is a heart - pitch a diamond from hand, ruff on the board and play the last club - if RHO ruffs low overruff and play a diamond (RHO has only AK of spades left so it is ok to have that trick ruffed). if RHO ruffs high pitch another diamond. I think that works.

when he ruffs and you pitch, he is not endplayed: he cashes the top two trumps and exits a and he now has longer trump than you: you shortened your trump by ruffing a and now, when he leads his last , you are down to one trump each... if you ruff, he gets his long trump for 4 trump tricks
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Posted 2007-April-19, 03:58

lets see, we have 3, 3, 1 and 2, how can we make any more trick?

We need to ruff a in dummy

So only hope is finese J, A, cash 3 and play a from dummy.
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Posted 2007-April-19, 04:32

and about the lead thing, seems you got fixed, leading a is a reasonable option, just it doesn't seem the best one.
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Posted 2007-April-19, 11:21

Fluffy, on Apr 19 2007, 04:32 AM, said:

and about the lead thing, seems you got fixed, leading a is a reasonable option, just it doesn't seem the best one.

There are players against whom I would lead a club (expecting that they are gambling with a running suit), but against a client whom I expect to have 20 hcp in a balanced hand...
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