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Bidding after inverted minor bid

#1 User is offline   DWM 

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Posted 2007-March-21, 07:45

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North opens

1 (P) 3 (P)
3 (X) ?

What should I bid now and why?

3 was an inverted minor bid promising 5's and less than 9 points
3 was a stop show looking for 3NT
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Posted 2007-March-21, 08:13

5C, but I don't criticize 3NT.

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Posted 2007-March-21, 08:26

3NT seems canonical.. given I showed 3-9 hcp and a bunch of clubs, I can hardly have KJx KJx in the majors, can I? And if I had one major well stopped, I'd bid it now.

So 3NT must logically show so-so stoppers in the majors, which is precisely what I have.
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Posted 2007-March-21, 09:33

I want to declare, but that X makes me nervous. Partner has something like KQ9 in diamonds, and the opponent is asking for a diamond lead. Looks like we have six clubs, and one diamond. Are we going to get two other tricks before they run diamonds or a major?

The two possibilities to me seem to be...

1. Partner has 15-17 and shortness in a major. In which case I think I should run screaming from 3NT.

2. Partner has 18-19 and is wide open in a major. After a diamond lead, looks like they'll get one diamond and four tricks in a major without trying, since my queen will no longer have any protection.

I think my choices are...

1. XX. Now my partner can declare 3NT, which protects the diamonds, and the opponents won't be able to see which major to attack, or

2. 4 clubs. I sense wastage here- sounds like partner has a diamond honor that won't be pulling full weight, and one of my queens will be worthless in clubs. If partner couldn't make the leap to 3NT, I think it's time to retire quietly.

Without the X, 3NT seems automatic.
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Posted 2007-March-22, 01:56

first let us analyze the situation without the dbl:
i have promised 5c ... i have 6
i most likely have some distribuition, else i might have bid 1nt (in sayc, not in 2min forcing)
p has reserves and a d stop
so 3nt is a likely contract espesially at mps! i have values in both majors, reserves (roughly a K more than minimum). so 3nt seems best. in c one of my Q may be wasted.
now rho has dbled, does that change the situation? take care, we are NOT supposed to bid partners hand!! he must do that himself. i can hardly have a better hand (a ten or 2 in the majors would be fine). so immediate action is ok, with a min i could pass. rdbl would show d values. the alternative is passing and then 3nt, but p may bid 4c and the chnace would be lost. if his d are to weak, that is his concern! suppose he has
AJx,Kxx,KQx,AQxx
3nt has chances even after the dbl. if p has the T of d chances become even better.
p knows i have good c and stoppers in both M, if his d are too weak, he should remove i cannot have everything!
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Posted 2007-March-22, 04:18

This is the biggest double raise I have ever seen and pard is fishing for 3N? Its hard to comprehend what 'hole' he has in the major; is: AKxx, xx, AJx, AQxx possible?

Whatever it is, I am warned off of 3N, but maybe 6 is possible. I'm OK with redouble here, since pard will tell the table what major we have problems in, but I kind of like a 4 call.
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