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Poll: Whats your opening bid playing 2/1 GF (41 member(s) have cast votes)

Whats your opening bid playing 2/1 GF

  1. 1[HE] (9 votes [21.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.95%

  2. 2[_CL] (31 votes [75.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.61%

  3. Other (1 votes [2.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.44%

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#1 User is offline   hrothgar 

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Posted 2007-March-17, 14:55


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Posted 2007-March-17, 14:57

2C

Yes I know it is illegal to open 2clubs with a two suiter, esp if one of them is hearts. :)
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Posted 2007-March-17, 14:58

Depending on my agreements after 2♣, I'll choose between 2NT and 2♣.
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Posted 2007-March-17, 15:03

1H, the risk being passed out is small,
since partner will bid 1NT with 4HCP and
heart support.

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Posted 2007-March-17, 15:12

1♥ is completely silly, even if it's not passed out I'll never be able to show a hand this strong, and the bidding is particularly easy after opening 2♣ (unless you play that convention I hate where 2♥ is a double negative).

Anyway there is also too much risk of a passout. xxx x xxx xxxxxx is a cold slam being played at the 1 level in the wrong suit.
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Posted 2007-March-17, 15:35

I make the completely silly bid of 1H :)

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Posted 2007-March-17, 16:10

I make the completely silly bid of 2C. Silliness is in the eye of the beholder.
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Posted 2007-March-17, 16:10

2C, duh!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-March-17, 16:30

2C. How tangled can the ensuing auction get?
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Posted 2007-March-18, 03:09

Wrong shape for 1♥ as partner is less likely to have the spade length for a light response.
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Posted 2007-March-18, 04:20

2♣. why is this a problem? Even mikeh would open it 2♣.. lol (though I'm sure he's gonna say 1♥ just to piss me off... :D)
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Posted 2007-March-18, 04:47

My partner will pass 1♥ with xxx Jx xxxxx Jxx or so. It's a bidders game. So 2♣ is the obvious choice. If you open 1♥ it will be very difficult to convince your partner that you have a 3 losers hand
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Posted 2007-March-18, 04:48

Even for me this is a ... 2♣ opening. I think this is the first time in a poll between 1x and 2♣ I have chosen 2♣ :D
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Posted 2007-March-18, 06:27

2C for me, but this is fairly close. I certainly wouldn't criticise a 1H opening on these cards. I think that a 1H then a 3C jump shift will lead to partner trying to discourage me the entire time with his KQxxx of spades, whereas if I open 2C then he might be a bit more talkative
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Posted 2007-March-18, 06:39

While I am not in love with opening 2C that is my choice. If it went 1H all pass I would be rather sad, so I am forced here to open 2C.
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Posted 2007-March-18, 08:56

2♣
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Posted 2007-March-18, 10:27

2♣.
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Posted 2007-March-18, 11:52

I will (probably) suprise no one that I chose a 1♥ opening. I've never been fond of 2♣ openings with two suited hands and this one was no exception.

I eschewed the 2♣ opening because I didn't like my rebid after a number of (probable) auctions. In particular, the auction

2♣ - 2♦
2♥ - 3♥

gave me pause for thought. Yes, we'd find a 5-3 heart fit, but there would be no chance of ever exploring for a 4-4 club fit. In a similar vein, if partner started with any kind of positive, the auction would (probably) get terrible cramped. If partner shows spades, we're going to raise him and clubs will be lost. If partner shows a balanced hand, we're stuck with the decision whether to show hearts or look for clubs. The only 2♣ auction that I felt good about would be:

2♣ - 2♦
2♥ - 2N
3♣

So, I decided to make a bit of an underbid and opened 1♥. This worked out pretty well when the auction started

1♥ - 1♠
3♣ - 4♣
4♦ - 4♠
4N - 5♣


At this point, partner had now shown me the King of Spades and the Ace of Clubs. I decided not to get real fancy and just punted 7♣.
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Posted 2007-March-18, 12:52

I have some comments:

After 2C-2D-2H-3H I play that a new suit is a 'natural cuebid", appreciating help there. So we might still get to clubs.

Suppose you do open 1H and you survive, partner responds 1S. Now it goes 1H-1S-3C-3H-3S-4S. Will you be comfortable passing this? I don't think so. Are you willing to force to the 5-level though opposite any hand that has 5 spades? And if you do take another call, will you be able to have a sensible investigation of slam?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-March-19, 06:43

1♥, need 24 to open 2♣ with balanced hand :P
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