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Posted 2007-March-15, 07:46
Let me show you this 3HCP hand...
Just another 3HCP hand, huh?
Your action please...
Just another 3HCP hand, huh?
Your action please...
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Posted 2007-March-15, 07:50
5♦. We're red on white; this is a trick overbid but how can I bid less with a 10 card suit?
edit: ok on second look it looks like we're 2nd seat favorable...now 5♦ wtp
edit: ok on second look it looks like we're 2nd seat favorable...now 5♦ wtp
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Posted 2007-March-15, 08:04
4♦, i don't like 800's, is almost like they reached slam. 4♦ puts enough pressure
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Posted 2007-March-15, 08:25
The hand diagram is hard to read.
It says dealer East, vul EW, which makes us second at favourable.
The bidding diagram has two dashes before the first P, which I think also makes us South in second seat at favourable vul; it's just the P hasn't lined up properly beneath the E.
Second seat favourable it's clear to open 5D. I'd rather have a top diamond honour, but I didn't turn up to under-pre-empt on a 10-card suit.
It says dealer East, vul EW, which makes us second at favourable.
The bidding diagram has two dashes before the first P, which I think also makes us South in second seat at favourable vul; it's just the P hasn't lined up properly beneath the E.
Second seat favourable it's clear to open 5D. I'd rather have a top diamond honour, but I didn't turn up to under-pre-empt on a 10-card suit.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 08:32
5D. What else?
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Posted 2007-March-15, 08:47
Though problem.. can't make up my mind between 5 and 6♦
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Posted 2007-March-15, 10:17
5♦ at first or third, at second pass sounds reasonable. Specially at this vul were we can bid any level of ♦ later.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 10:29
On a couple of other threads many agreed that partner should/could raise 5♦ to 6 on a void if he expected no outside losers.
With that in mind, I'd expect some more to argue against a 5♦ opening here.
Not that it matters much to me - I open 5♦ anyway.
With that in mind, I'd expect some more to argue against a 5♦ opening here.
Not that it matters much to me - I open 5♦ anyway.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 11:29
skaeran, on Mar 15 2007, 04:29 PM, said:
On a couple of other threads many agreed that partner should/could raise 5♦ to 6 on a void if he expected no outside losers.
With that in mind, I'd expect some more to argue against a 5♦ opening here.
Not that it matters much to me - I open 5♦ anyway.
With that in mind, I'd expect some more to argue against a 5♦ opening here.
Not that it matters much to me - I open 5♦ anyway.
Yes, I would agree to that too. If partner has a small singleton rather than a void and no outside losers, then 6D is a 52% contract (although it will be doubled if they aren't 1-1)
I don't design my bidding agreements to cover holding a 10-card suit without the ace or king.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 11:31
Maybe I'm getting older and more conservative these days, but 4♦ seems about right.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 11:44
5D any position or vulnerability (except 4th!!!)
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Posted 2007-March-15, 12:43
5♦, and I don't know how you can go for 800 in this contract, we're NV... 
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Posted 2007-March-15, 12:53
I missed the vulnerability also.
Now, I feel younger. 5♦.
Now, I feel younger. 5♦.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 14:23
jim420, on Mar 15 2007, 08:46 AM, said:
Let me show you this 3HCP hand...
Just another 3HCP hand, huh?
Your action please...
Scoring: IMP
W N E S
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W N E S
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Just another 3HCP hand, huh?
Your action please...
IF we are at unfav vul then 4d.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 14:42
5D, what else?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 14:53
Hannie, on Mar 15 2007, 03:42 PM, said:
5D, what else?
1♠, maybe?
Hmmm, unfortunately partner is too likely to take it seriously.
I prefer 6♦ over 4D or 5D. The maximum it can go for is 800, but it will usually only be 500 or less. 6D applies the maximum pressure to the opponents, one of which is already a passed hand.
It prevents a 5D-(6D) or 5D-x-p-(6D) auction by the opponents, at least one of which is likely holding 10 major suit cards and diamond void.
I wont feel like I need to bid again over wherever the opponents end up. I put as much pressure on as I reasonably could and they've had to guess at the 6 level.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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