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Playing 2/1 with 2♣ being your strong bid, what is your bid after 2 passes.
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3rd seat opening
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Posted 2007-March-14, 16:35
Playing 2/1 with 2♣ being your strong bid, what is your bid after 2 passes.
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Posted 2007-March-14, 16:40
2S wtp?
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Posted 2007-March-14, 20:32
1S automatic for me.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-March-14, 20:37
pbleighton, on Mar 14 2007, 05:40 PM, said:
2S wtp?
Peter
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I agree, but I will quickly pull to 3♣ after X-P-P-?
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Posted 2007-March-14, 20:42
"I agree, but I will quickly pull to 3♣ after X-P-P-?"
Well, duh
Peter
Well, duh
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Posted 2007-March-14, 20:43
1s, no problem yet
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Posted 2007-March-15, 07:39
DWM, on Mar 14 2007, 05:35 PM, said:
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Playing 2/1 with 2♣ being your strong bid, what is your bid after 2 passes.
If I had:
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I would open 1 spade. As it happens, I'm going to have a problem after partner bids 2 of a red suit, so I'll just open it 2 spades.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 07:43
pbleighton, on Mar 14 2007, 06:40 PM, said:
2S wtp?
Peter
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I think you should save your "wtp" for "what do you do with KQJxxx xx xxx xx in 3rd seat"
weak twos normally contain 6 cards or a strong 5-card suit, so 2♠ would be anti-field here
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Posted 2007-March-15, 07:45
1♠. The preemptive advantages (relative to pass) outweigh any other concerns.
2♠ seems a bit weird to me with 5-5 when you could open
2♠ seems a bit weird to me with 5-5 when you could open
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Posted 2007-March-15, 11:54
1C for me, breaking my normal rule. This time I don't expect to make a game (unless partner can bid spades himself) so I content with bidding a suit I want led. If opponents bid a game here (possibly 3NT) partner will realise I don't have a strong hand, so must want a lead. Jxxxx is not good for leading purposes.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 11:57
This may seem counter-intuitive, but one of my motivations for opening 2♠ rather than 1♠ is that my suit sucks.
Here's why.
If you held Jxxxxx in spades, and four clubs, in third seat, would the lack of quality spades dissuade you from a weak two? Probably not. Partner will expect that your spades may be ugly for a third-seat weak two.
In contrast, would you consider opening 1♠ with AKJx and little to nothing more, for a lead-director? Maybe AKJx-xxx-xxx-xxx? Add enough quacks to entice you if you must.
In other words, one-level openings in third seat are often lead-directive, whereas two-level calls in third seat are often noise. So, when borderline between 1♠ or 2♠, I'll open 2♠ with lousy honors but 1♠ with good honors.
Here's why.
If you held Jxxxxx in spades, and four clubs, in third seat, would the lack of quality spades dissuade you from a weak two? Probably not. Partner will expect that your spades may be ugly for a third-seat weak two.
In contrast, would you consider opening 1♠ with AKJx and little to nothing more, for a lead-director? Maybe AKJx-xxx-xxx-xxx? Add enough quacks to entice you if you must.
In other words, one-level openings in third seat are often lead-directive, whereas two-level calls in third seat are often noise. So, when borderline between 1♠ or 2♠, I'll open 2♠ with lousy honors but 1♠ with good honors.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 12:04
"weak twos normally contain 6 cards or a strong 5-card suit, so 2♠ would be anti-field here "
My weak 2s in the 3rd NV are wild, and I have no problem playing against the field.
Also, not vulnerable, a lot of players around where I play open weak 2s very aggressively in the 3rd seat not vulnerable.
Peter
P.S. your sarcasm detector is on the blink
My weak 2s in the 3rd NV are wild, and I have no problem playing against the field.
Also, not vulnerable, a lot of players around where I play open weak 2s very aggressively in the 3rd seat not vulnerable.
Peter
P.S. your sarcasm detector is on the blink
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Posted 2007-March-15, 12:55
1♠ - the fun bid, the effective bid, the sound bid. Classical example of "wtp"
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-March-15, 13:32
The "preemptive" 1♠ seems correct.
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Posted 2007-March-16, 02:35
Hi,
1S, on the border, but the rule of 20
is satisfied.
Would I open in first / second seat?
Most likely not.
With kind regards
Marlowe
1S, on the border, but the rule of 20
is satisfied.
Would I open in first / second seat?
Most likely not.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2007-March-18, 03:32
So what happened?
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Posted 2007-March-18, 07:46
Seems 1♣ followed by ♠ upto 3 level may not be a bad idea
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