[plaur]

Local pairs

Scoring: MP

1♥* 2♦ - p - p
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1♥ shows four+. With four good hearts opener can still have a weak 4 card minor. 1NT is 15-17, but we do not open 1NT with good 5 card major suits. Partner has a weak hand or a penalty double of 2 ♦.

Would you reopen with an X?
What if partners pass took a little time longer than normal, indicating she had some kind of choice?

[the hog]

X. Pd is allowed to hesitate and I am allowed to make my normal bid.

[pclayton]

If you polled 10 random experts, I would think all 10 of them would reopen with a x. I really don't think pass is a LA here.

[Dean]

I reckon if you polled 10 random experts 10 of them would pass in their sleep.

An awfull hand. Surely partner is bust, after all he can't have a diamond trap when you hold QJ???

[the hog]

Dean, on Mar 12 2007, 08:05 AM, said:

I reckon if you polled 10 random experts 10 of them would pass in their sleep.

An awfull hand. Surely partner is bust, after all he can't have a diamond trap when you hold QJ???

This is MP matey! You won't win many MPs by passing this out. I'm definitely with Phil.

[the hog]

Dean, on Mar 12 2007, 08:05 AM, said:

I reckon if you polled 10 random experts 10 of them would pass in their sleep.

An awfull hand. Surely partner is bust, after all he can't have a diamond trap when you hold QJ???

This is MP matey! You won't win many MPs by passing this out. Furthermore, what law says pd can't have 5 or 6 S and not enough to bid. I'm definitely with Phil.

[han]

Agree with Phil, double is automatic.

[HeartA]

Double for sure. Any cards pd has would be useful. I would have opened 1NT though.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

reopening is clear, altough I think that pass is an option,
hence LA, given your hand.
Holding QJ in diamonds, partner cant have a
penalty pass, ... unless the opponents are lunatics.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: Partner may hold a weak hand with a weak 4 card
diamond suit, and may have feared the reopening double,
which may mean that double is the most unattractive bid.

[whereagles]

hum.. I feel like passing, so that's what I'd do. Wouldn't be surprised if pard's hesitation is due to him having a black suit and 7 hcp or so.

[hotShot]

You have a strong hand and are battling for the partscore, 4-5 HCP from partner will be enough.
I doubt that dbl will be an unanimous vote here, because you can rebid you ♥ too. But at MP, but I think pass won't be chosen often.

[jtfanclub]

plaur, on Mar 11 2007, 05:54 PM, said:

What if partners pass took a little time longer than normal, indicating she had some kind of choice?

Some day, when I am Dictator of All Things Bridge, there will be a jtfanclub's rule on hesitations:

"There is no such thing as a small hesitation on the first round of bidding".

What does a little time longer than normal mean on the first round of bidding? The time it took him to think "did they record that score correctly"? The time to think "You know, I'll bet I could have played that last hand better"? The time to think "Wow, a 4-3-3-2-1 distribution. I haven't seen that before..."? The time to think "Haven't we played this board before? This is the same auction and the same hand that I had an hour ago"?

I think it's silly to try to read anything into partner's little extra time. I think it's wrong, and possibly unethical, to only X in this case when P was not a LA, since it reveals extra information to your partner. Yes, you might get a director call, and you might get it reversed. I am, after all, not yet Dictator of All Things Bridge yet. But it's better to simply bid as if there was no hesitation and risk a director call than to change your bids based on partner's mannerisms.

[pclayton]

whereagles, on Mar 12 2007, 03:44 AM, said:

hum.. I feel like passing, so that's what I'd do. Wouldn't be surprised if pard's hesitation is due to him having a black suit and 7 hcp or so.

Eagles doesn't take an agressive call? Certain teams get bounced from Day 0 of the Vanderbilt?

The end is surely upon us....

[whereagles]

lol.. that's because if I dbl pard will be (mis)playing the hand and going down. I prefer my chances on defense

[bid_em_up]

Dean, on Mar 11 2007, 08:05 PM, said:

I reckon if you polled 10 random experts 10 of them would pass in their sleep.

I seriously doubt it.

While partner is unlikely to hold a trap pass of 2D, he is certainly likely to hold something like KJxxxx x xxxx Qx where he cannot take a free bid over 2D (assuming you are not playing negative free bids). 2♠ would be forcing, and this hand just isn't good enough to do so.

I cant imagine any expert quietly selling out to 2D on this holding.

[bid_em_up]

hotShot, on Mar 12 2007, 07:32 AM, said:

You have a strong hand and are battling for the partscore, 4-5 HCP from partner will be enough.
I doubt that dbl will be an unanimous vote here, because you can rebid you ♥ too. But at MP, but I think pass won't be chosen often.

2H should imply a 6th heart.

X says, I can tolerate whatever you do and would be almost unanimous in any poll, I believe.

[hotShot]

bid_em_up, on Mar 12 2007, 05:23 PM, said:

hotShot, on Mar 12 2007, 07:32 AM, said:

You have a strong hand and are battling for the partscore, 4-5 HCP from partner will be enough.
I doubt that dbl will be an unanimous vote here, because you can rebid you ♥ too. But at MP, but I think pass won't be chosen often.

2H should imply a 6th heart.

X says, I can tolerate whatever you do and would be almost unanimous in any poll, I believe.

Did you notice that 1H was explained as 4+♥'s?