[ArcLight]

Scoring: IMP

Pard deals and passes
p - p - 1H - (1S)
2H - p - ?

Pard has 3 trumps.

You use Bergen Raises, so pard does not have 4 trumps.

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[mike777]

3c

btw I think 3h is much better used as sign off to play and not invite.

[pclayton]

As much as I like this hand, RHO didn't raise spades. Therefore, its possible pard has some duplication there.

I used to blast into game on hands like this, because I have "5 losers", but I kept getting dummies with ♣xxx.

I don't really like HSGT's, but it seems perfect for this hand.

[jtfanclub]

ArcLight, on Mar 9 2007, 01:59 PM, said:

You use Bergen Raises, so pard does not have 4 trumps.

I can think of all sorts of hands that have 4 trumps that would bid 2♥, even with Bergen raises.

If I'm playing 'garbage' raises, I'd consider a pass...way too likely to be wastage, and I don't like the points being to my left. Otherwise, looks perfect for help suit game try.

[hrothgar]

ArcLight, on Mar 9 2007, 09:59 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Pard deals and passes
p - p - 1H - (1S)
2H - p - ?

Pard has 3 trumps.

You use Bergen Raises, so pard does not have 4 trumps.

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Bergen raises (as commonly defined) do not apply in competitive auction.
I've certainly never seen Bergen advocate using them in this way.

There are a variety of treatments where a raise to 3♣ would promise 4 card Hearts support, however, these are typically some species of fit jump that show Club length and Heart length.

I like the 3♣ bid

[mikeh]

I wish I could bring myself to pass, and at mps, I would. However, we are at imps and red so I have to make a move. I am a big fan of just bidding game if a random decent raise will give us play, but that is not the case here. So I will haul out science via 3♣.

BTW, and irrelevant to my answer, I truly do not like Bergen in competition and like it even less by a passed hand, competitive or not. Fit showing jumps are much more useful, in my opinion.

[Apollo81]

3♣

[Walddk]

3♣. A vulnerable game at IMPs is too good to miss. Game will obviously depend on what partner has in clubs. He is likely to have a fistful of spades (no raise), so his shape is most likely 5323 or 5332.

On a bad day 3♥ is too high (♠KQ or KJ) and repeated trump leads, on a normal day it's not unreasonable to hope for 9 tricks, and on a good day like today he has the values I need for game to make.

Roland